Except, of course, x-eudora-settings were URLs that could be clicked – it was so helpful when supporting someone else using Eudora to be able to send one or more settings that they could click and apply instead of directing them how to do it. I used to get more joy than is reasonable out of that system! (Of course, the lack of this is not Mimestream’s fault. Given MacOS has a standard defaults system, it would be a bad idea for them to ignore it and build their own!)
Does Mimestream not offer a column view? I still far prefer this old-style mailbox view because it’s much faster for me to parse (and can easily include various small bits of information like tags and size that can be useful). As someone who can’t stand a viewer pane for email, I have plenty of horizontal space! This is the kind of thing I’m talking about:
I’ve been on the beta up until now. It was okay for me but didn’t see much over the Apple Mail app or Outlook or Gmail on the web, besides I have multiple email accounts that would preclude Mimestream.
mail.app was getting slow, and it’s search unreliable for me with a pretty large mail box
But there are a few pretty big misses, which as far as I can tell are not priorities to them:
no plain text email format
attachments are displayed weirdly. Not inline, but just as one or more icons in the header
incomplete integration with macOS, e.g. automatically detecting possible appointments in the text and ability to add directly to calendar, same for names
I switched to mimestream for a month a few months ago and then abandoned it till 1.0. Now I am back because my annoyance with mail.app grew more and more and I’ve checked all the others out and mimestream is head and shoulders above the rest.
I don’t know, but Mimestream and Mailplane are very different in the sense that Mailplane is mostly a Mac app wrapper around the Gmail Web interface. It’s sort of a dedicated site-specific browser.
I suspect the Priority Inbox sections don’t really make sense within the Mimestream interface. However, as you can see in my screenshots, I’m sort of doing that already, with Important as the top label, followed by Inbox (which is sort of Important + Everything Else), then Starred. If I had a specific label to pull out, I could put it there too. So I don’t think Mimestream is a lot different.
Totally agreed! I loved those links.
Not in the sense you’re showing. Mimestream can hide the viewing pane, but then you end up with two columns, one for labels and the other for messages. The second one can be quite wide, though, resulting in something like this:
Can I use my own domain? Right now, I have a custom domain that Netsol manages… email comes along with their hosting package (which I need much less of than I used to need). Not sure how it might work using Mimestream… if at all.
If you’re using your own domain with Gmail now, yes, you can use it with Mimestream. I have no problem sending all my mail from my tidbits.com address, even though everything is actually gmail.com behind the scenes.
No, I’m not using my domain with gmail, I’m using it through my hosting package provider. One benefit I have there is a ton of custom addresses (like paul@mydomain, george@my domain, amazon@mydomain). Would I have to set up multiple gmail addresses?
Sorryn to ask you these questions, is there anyone at Minestream I can talk too? Oh, I have a ton of filters and a ton of mailboxes (applemail), can I bring this structure and import into Mimestream?
I see Mailmate gets no mention here, probably as it is not Gmail specific. However, it does have a section in the manual which may interest those who wish to use “regular” IMAP email in addition to Gmail. It allows you to get pretty geeky with it if you so wish. Look here (MailMate) for the info about Gmail.
Disclaimer: I still use Gmail via Mailplane as my main email client. I manage my non-google email accounts by simply setting them up to forward to specific Gmail accounts. So far so good.
MailMate is awesome, but it’s beauty is utilitarian, not aesthetic. Lots of people turn up their noses for that reason, it seems. However, even MailMate essentially “fakes” Gmail; it doesn’t give you the same flexibility as a properly Gmail-aware client. But people who like the look of Mimestream ought to look at MailMate if they aren’t using Gmail and they want a “traditional” power tool email client.
As to forwarding addresses, doesn’t Workspace let you define aliases for a domain? IIRC you don’t need a mailbox just to have an alias address, even when your domain is hosted by Google. It even supported catch-all. Perhaps things changed since I last tried it, when it was called “Apps”, a decade (or less) ago.
Yes, I was looking for opinions/experiences between Mimestream and Kiwi for Gmail. Comparisons/Pros-Cons welcome. Both appear to be native Mac Apps for GMail and supports multiple gmail accounts in a unified client. Mimestream’s creator is an experienced Mac OS developer so it’s coding/interface/underlying datahandling seem very solid… Kiwi For Gmail says it also supports other Google Apps.
Kiwi is more akin to Mailplane; just an app interface to the Gmail web interface. Mimestream is more like Apple Mail; a full-fledged email client with a unified Inbox.
i copypasta a link to a flickr album from apple mail into a mimestream message. recipients complained that it didn’t work; that they just ended up on the flickr homepage being asked to provide a login. huh? worked for me … until i started clicking around.
still, figured a possible mimestream bug. filed an email report. got an almost immediate response from them. they were very helpful in tracking down the cause. ultimately it was an apple failure in its link preview feature. there were japanese characters in the title of the album. that confused the apple software.
but kudos for mimestream for being so proactive and helpful chasing this down.
“Of course, the downside of a Gmail-specific client is that you can’t use it with any email service other than Gmail. Full IMAP support is on Mimestream’s roadmap, though it may require more work than it might seem because of Gmail’s significant architectural differences from IMAP. Regardless, if you want to see IMAP support in Mimestream, I encourage you to vote for it and other features you’d like to see in the future.”
It’s apparently not yet on the “planned” roadmap. Just a “considering” item. I just voted for it.
I wonder how important that is. Most of my accounts are Gmail. And from testing Mimestream again as of a couple of days ago I appreciate the speed and the UI for my Gmail. But I do have an iCloud account and a few generic IMAP accounts as well.
Among the things I’m really appreciating while testing Mimestream again for the first time in nearly two years are:
The sheer speed of it. As you mentioned, your Gmail stuff is just there. I love the responsiveness.
My brain was apparently wired for Gmail keyboard shortcuts and I fell right back into using them.
The labels! Sometimes you want multiple labels on a message thread and that’s what makes Gmail special.
I’ve found a few minor issues, and I’m talking about them with the developer, but it’s really looking nice.
I do have some issues with the subscription price. I do understand than a subscription system is a reasonable way to ensure ongoing support. Especially when Google and Apple keep changing underlying things. But the price of $49.99/year seems a tad high to me just for one email app.
For example, I pay $69/year for my Office365 subscription and that includes all the Office apps (including Outlook), 2 TB of OneDrive space, and some free Skype time. By comparison $49.99 for just one email app, as others have mentioned, seems a tad high. I wonder how much they thought that through - the number of people willing to jump onboard with a lower price vs fewer people willing to pay for a higher price.
I’ve also confirmed that unlike with Apple Mail you cannot move message threads between accounts. That’s also something they are considering for a future release.
I really do love the keystroke operation and speed and appearance.
I’m seeing a few oddities, but Ratnesh in support is being very responsive.
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