MailMaven - A promising new email contender?

Not specifically, and I certainly meant no offence. it certainly appears you’re not the only one. As stated earlier, I have no issue with how people use their machines and storage. I just find it bemusing people will store what’s predominantly cruft.

I can filter and sort lots of emails in very little time, given the vast majority of emails these days are marketing based. I have lots of effective rules in place so it’s virtually no work at all to keep my inboxes relatively clean. I look at my 7,000 email count and wonder why I’m keeping all this crap :slightly_smiling_face: Personally it would drive me nuts if I had to wait 10 seconds for an app to open, and 30 seconds for a find.

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I know your main point was about the price/subscription aspect of MailMaven, but mention of EM Client caught my eye. I tried EM Client after seeing it mentioned in TidBits Talk. But a fatal flaw for me was that when I come back to the list of unread messages from some other view, EM Client immediately selects the first unread message, and because I have the setting “Mark read after 2 seconds” that message is soon marked read and will disappear the next time I filter for unread only. I have missed important messages because of this UI error (and yes, I went through all the settings, but clue EM Client’s users in if anyone knows of a solution). That plus all the non-email stuff amounted to (for me) an app that over-tries being helpful with too many assumptions about what being helpful really means. Back to Apple Mail for now. I’m a Eudora and then MailSmith (from Barebones, makers of BBEdit) veteran, so I know what it’s like have a useful and powerful email app. I’ll look at MailMaven.

Most people waste space by keeping attachments. It used to be easy to delete attachments from Apple Mail but for some reasons that doesn’t work anymore, at least not with Gmail. And Gmail neither has a bulk download nor bulk delete for attachments. Or anybody knows of a good mechanism, please let us know!

I just checked my Apple Mail and over at the right end of the line for each email with an attachment I find a paperclip icon which tells me that email has an attachment. I see it both for my personal domain and for a gmail account. If you are not seeing the attachment icon you may have set Apple Mail (or perhaps gmail) to not save attachments for that account. FWIW I am on Sequoia 15.7.1.

In my work I find many attachments useful, and always try to save attachments unless they are huge or worthless junk.

I began using SmallCubed’s Mail Act-On plugin in 2016 and was very disappointed when its parent, MailSuite, was discontinued in 2023 after Apple removed Mail plugins.

I’m now using Apple Mail, with an assist from SpamSieve and MsgFiler.

MailMaven is appealing because it would bring back Mail Act-On features. However, I’m concerned about what happens to Mail on my iPhone. Although I do 90% of my email processing on my Mac, I want to be able to monitor my Inbox on my iPhone when I’m on the move.

What’s possible on my iPhone when MailMaven is active on my Mac?

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This will depend greatly on how you are fetching your mail and how you manage it afterward.

If your mail server is IMAP-based and you leave messages on the server (possibly moving them to other folders), then they will remain available for all devices that connect to that server.

If, however, you do something that deletes the message from the server (e.g. the typical use-case for POP3-based access, or if you move messages to an “On My Mac” folder), then they will not longer be accessible from other devices.

This should be true for any and all mail apps, not just MailMaven.

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@Ward, it’s also worth noting that, even in the IMAP scenario @Shamino mentions, some of MailMaven’s more advanced metadata will not be visible on your phone. These include free-form notes, alternative subjects, background colors, and projects; it basically also includes tags, unless you’re using Gmail as your email provider and you make some concessions and tick some boxes in the preferences.

All those items will synchronize to other copies of MailMaven running on other Macs, if that’s relevant, if you also sign up for SmallCube’s (free and EtoE-encrypted) profile syncing service.

And all those items remain associated with the email on your Mac (as you might hope) if you move the message, flag it, or do other processing to it on your phone. You just don’t have access to that MailMaven-specific metadata on the phone.