MailMaven - A promising new email contender?

I have been giving MailMaven a try, and although it does things a bit differently to Apple Mail, it does some things better. I have an iCloud email address that has been impossible to get Apple Mail to use reliably, but MailMaven seems able to use. So, intend to keep using it and see if it can match PowerMail, which was my previous favourite email application. It supports SpamSieve, which was a keep consideration, and if can import old PowerMail archives it will definitely become my favoured app.
Is anyone else giving MailMaven a try, and what are your experience of using it?

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My opinion: The subscription price is too high. MailMaven does not support POP3 (yes, I still use POP3, I am not a friend at all of IMAP). No security updates after the year of subscription.

I am happy (more or less, well, more more than less) with Apple Mail. I use Apple Mail with MsgFiler, I use the internal Reminder function to remind me of important mails, I use the flag system. After some time I ā€œcreatedā€ something like a workflow, using these, important to me, functions.

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Thanks, you’re not alone. Just saved me the trouble of looking into it.

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Same. Otherwise I would have given MailMaven a test run.

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I’ve been using MailMaven since the beta period. Tech support during that period was excellent. It does more than some things better than Apple Mail – it’s vastly more powerful.

For a keyboard person like myself, it’s the best, ā€œfriction freeā€ email app I have ever used (maybe MailMate is slightly better in that regard, but only if you’re willing to do programming using BBEdit).

MailMaven incorporates all the functions of SmallCube’s former Mail Act-On and Mail Tags (not yet Perspectives, which I never used). Yes, it integrates seamlessly with SpamSieve.

I can’t begin to describe the power for efficient composing (e.g., templates), sending (e.g., fully flexible delay etc.), navigating (for my configuration, G + W + Return takes me directly to my Writing mailbox, V + W + Return moves a message, and this is totally configurable), and organizing (e.g., favorite mailboxes, dynamic smart mailboxes, tag mailboxes, and mailboxes for tags, projects, etc.). Take a look at the (free) Take Control of MailMaven book by Joe Kissell. I use IMAP (Fastmail and iCloud), and POP is coming.

I’ve tried way too many email apps – Mail, Powermail, Postbox, MailMate, Mailsmith, and more. I’ll stick with MailMaven. Totally worth the price of admission for me.

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This is encouraging as I have a few accounts that are POP3

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Gosh that whole list looks familiar! I have to admit, though, that I now just say ā€œmy mail appā€ in conversation, since otherwise I sound like a beleaguered parent trying to say his youngest child’s name: ā€œClaris Emailer PowerMail Eudora Outlook Mailsmith Mail MailMate FastMate FMail3, uh, MailMaven!ā€

I really liked the (too short) time when I could use the Nisus text engine with Powermail, and have a t-shirt the Eudora Mac development team gave me for my help with their Powermail → Eudora importer after the death of Powermail.

Anyway, I’ve been trying MailMaven for a few days now (Fastmail mostly, and iCloud), and am cautiously optimistic. Unfortunately, my almost-new M4 Pro MacBook Pro chokes and reboots itself after a few hours worth of synchronizing my 1.3M messages (1987–present). Still, it (and my other apps) have been recovering gracefully, and I’m nearing the end of the process. To be fair, this problem may well be Apple’s, if

I stuck with MailMate for many years and love a lot about it; unfortunately, there are some bugs that the developer just doesn’t seem to be able to get rid of, and MailMaven looks like it might finally be ā€œmail done right.ā€ Fingers crossed!

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Yeah, haha, I forgot Eudora and Claris Emailer.

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Do you think it’s MailMaven syncing those messages that causes the MacBook Pro to choke? If so, I’d suggest you submit a report to the developers:

I am using MailMaven since a week or so. No problem to import my 90.000+ mails. I changed one account from POP3 to IMAP — but that action was overdue since years.

I am very happy to revoke all my tags I was working with using MailSuite in former days. One big disadvantage is the fact not supporting S/MIME to ensure my identity and encrypt my mails — I hope theyā€˜re working on that.

As an old Mailsuite user the yearly maintenance price at $45, forever, so long as I keep it active. I will have a look on how busy the further development will be. But for now I am very happy.

Just curious? Why do you prefer POP to IMAP?

I find POP easier to manage when mail is left on my provider’s server and when it isn’t. Specifically, I use my desktop as the archive of all my mail. When I check mail on my iPhone and iPad, the clients leave the mail on the server. When I check from my Mac, it deletes it. I had other nits with IMAP, but haven’t tried it a while. No reason to… Apple mail is really all I need.

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I’m just trying to understand: what if you’re away from your desktop Mac (vacation, conference, coffee shop) and you want to read a message on your iPhone. It’s no longer on the server.

S/MIME support is coming.

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It’s not a subscription :-). You can keep using the app after a year; you just won’t get new features. If you don’t feel like paying $75 every year, pay it every two or three years. No problem. That said, if you’re content with Apple Mail, you’re not the target audience for MailMaven. It’s designed for people who know they need more, and are willing to pay for it.

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Don’t care, doesn’t happen.

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My question is whether DEVONthink supports or will support archiving MailMaven email. But this may not be the best place to seek an answer.

The very first email software I recall was a the Red Ryder ā€œterminal emulatorā€ software written by Scott Watson, later turned into White Knight. I was writing for New Scientist magazine in London from my home in the Boston area, and I bought a 512K Mac in 1985 so I could get news to them faster than postal airmail. I needed a modem to talk to a wire service in London that I can’t remember the name of. Red Ryder did the job at 14 kb/second through a dial-up modem and landline phone line. It was quite an adventure to get it all running, but it worked.

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The first thing that crossed my mind, when I opened the app, was that it looked just like Apple’s Mail, except it was a lot more colorful. I didn’t go any further than that. I don’t think I will use it, to be honest. But don’t get me wrong. This is just my impression and not meant to be the review of the software.

Joe Kissell can give a much better answer. I’m not saying this is archiving, but I did a simple test: (1) export some email from MailMaven, (2) Import > Files and Folders in DEVONthink. Clicking on the links (from, to) creates a new email in MailMaven.