Originally published at: macOS 14.7 Sonoma, macOS 13.7 Ventura, iOS 17.7, and iPadOS 17.7 Provide Security Fixes - TidBITS
If you aren’t making the jump to Apple’s just-released major upgrades for macOS, iOS, and iPadOS, you can install these security updates instead.
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I updated my iPhone SE3 to iOS 17.7. When I tried to update my wifes iPhone SE3 it only offered me iOS 18. So I will not be updating this phone…
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Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP’s macOS to update its Safari and macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked and showed me https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same status. MBP wasn’t even warm so it’s not doing anything I think. Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
I am reading and answering.
If I was facing the same situation, I would immediately backup my Mac. I would then run Apple Diagnostics and Disk First Aid. If no problems were found and I felt confident my backup disks (I maintain multiple backups of my Mac) were in a reliable state, I would then retry the upgrade.
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I always do back ups. I am going to retry in a few hours.
Check again? 11 Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 all showed v17.7 with v18 at the bottom (I guess even Apple doesn’t think it is ready ;)).
I noticed something similar… I plugged my iPhone 14 Plus into my iMac to do a local backup of the iPhone via the Finder. When the backup was complete, the Finder showed an update to iOS 18 only. When I went to the Settings app on the iPhone itself, I was shown the update to iOS 18 by default, but I was able to navigate away from that option and I found the iOS 17.7 update.
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I installed the macOS 14.7 update this morning and now I’m quite nervous.
When I logged back in after the upgrade, I got a dialog that says the system was not shut down properly, then asking me if I want to restore the apps that were running prior to shutdown or not. And a few minutes later, it kernel panicked.
After that restart, I got the same shutdown warning. I chose to not restore apps, then I did an actual shutdown and left it powered off for a minute. On reboot (and, it seems after every login), I’m seeing the not-shutdown-properly dialog.
Hopefully the system won’t be kernel panicking again or I’m going to be in for a world of hurt as I try to restore back to 14.6.
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The system kernel panicked again after a few minutes of sitting idle.
I would recommend that people do not install the 14.7 update until we learn more information.
I’m now reinstalling Sonoma from Recovery mode. Hopefully that will work or I’m going to have to wipe it and do a clean install, and I have no clue how I’ll get a 14.6 installer.
This is in a 2018 Intel Mac mini.
Update. A recovery-mode reinstalation didn’t help. Still got a kernel panic and crash after running for a few minutes.
My next step is to download a 14.6.1 installer (links to Apple’s CDN server may be found here, make a bootable flash drive, and (hopefully) install that over my 14.7 installation. If that can’t be done, then it will need to be a clean install followed by a Time Machine recovery.
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The MrMacintosh site has the installer download links for full installers as well as the IPSW ones.
No problems here with 14.7 on 16” M1 MacBook Pro.
And now I need help. I can’t create a bootable 14.6.1 installer from my old Mac running Sierra. The “createinstallmedia” program throws an exception and quits. Is there another way? In the past, there would be a disk image in the installer package that I could just clone to a storage device. Is there still an equivalent mechanism?
Update: The 14.7 installation seems stable in safe mode (boot with SHIFT held down). So I’m creating the install media from there…
Update 2: I was able to boot the installer. It can’t downgrade anything, but I deleted the system volume with disk utility (leaving behind the Data volume), and I’m now installing over that. Hopefully the result will work. Otherwise I’ll have to delete both and use Migration Assistant to put back all my stuff from Time Machine.
Update 3: That seems to have worked. I’m booted back to my login. Things seem to be working, except for my Apache web server. I’m using the Apple-provided Apache, but it fails to start. I’m researching that now…
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One possiblity would be to use Open Core Legacy Patcher and just use the Create macOS Installer function on the main menu.
I have seen people reporting that they had success with this. Curious if you will succeed and crossing my fingers for you.
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Update 4: And Apache is now working. I followed the advice from Stack Overflow, which is dealing with a Homebrew-installation of Apache:
# launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd.plist
# launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd.plist
This didn’t seem to work, because a subsequent attempt to start Apache failed:
# apachectl start
Load failed: 5: Input/output error
Try running `launchctl bootstrap` as root for richer errors.
But a few minutes later, I noticed that the Apache log (/var/log/apache2/error_log) had messages indicating that it was running. And subsequent start/stop command succeeded:
# apachectl stop
# apachectl start
I hate not knowing why something magically fixed itself, but it appears to be working now.
And I will not be installing 14.7 again. Maybe 14.7.1. Or maybe not.
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My second attempt was a success. This time I didn’t lock my session during the update since I was near by and not out. I hope it didn’t break anything!
I updated my iPhone to 17.7. I experienced something I have never done before, although I have had iPhones since 2008. For 30-40 minutes I had no network either via Wi-Fi or Cellular. Simultaneously, I was on my mac with Wi-Fi working. I did not test calling, so I do not know if that would have worked.
After trying Safari, Arc search and some other Network based apps, I turned it off and on again. Did the same tests and some other. I had laid down the iPhone on the table and was searching the web on my mac when I saw Arc Search on the iPhone resetting and showing a web page.
After testing some more, I now can say “it just works”.
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Nope. That, by the way, is how it appeared on my iPhone SE3 which updated properly to 17.7. On my wife’s iPhone SE3 the only option was iOS 18.
Today I noticed a Screen Notification that iOS 17.7 was available. But when I went to Settings > General > Software Updates it only showed iOS 18 as an option and that it has already downloaded it. I’m given an option to Install Now or Tonight. Instead, I found the iOS 18 update and deleted it (Settings > iPhone Storage).
And, now, finally it gives me an option for iOS 17.7. I’ll wait…
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Do those iPhones use autodownloads? I turned that feature off. I don’t want to be forced.
I experienced no issues while upgrading to macOS 14.7 on my 2020 iMac.
When I started installing iPadOS 17.7 on a 10.5-inch iPad, I got an error about how it couldn’t be downloaded, but when I tried again, it started with Preparing Update…, which implied it had already downloaded the update. But it then installed fine and I haven’t seen any issues since.