How can I unsubscribe Mac-L Digest?

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I have been subscribed to the “Mac-L Digest” mailing list for long, long years.

The Digest e-mail messages arrive every day. Each message is a collection of (short) e-mails contributed by various people. (It feels like a “TidBITS Talk of 50-years-ago,” sort of.)

Each of the DIGEST e-mail message body text begins with:

You are subscribed to the ‘Mac-L’ list as:
mkbnagata@xxx.xxxxx.ne.jp
To unsubscribe, send any message to:
mailto:leave-mac-l@hades.listmoms.net?Subject=Gazelle
…be sure to put the word “Gazelle” in the Subject line.

Through these years, I’ve been gradually losing interest in Mac-L Digest (mainly because TidBITS Talk is much more valuable to me,) so in the last October, I decided to unsubscribe it.

I sent mail to mailto:leave-mac-l@hades.listmoms.net?Subject=Gazelle, but each time my message is returned in the next day, saying:

Returned mail: see transcript for details

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed permanently.

Final-Recipient: rfc822; leave-mac-l@hades.listmoms.net
Action: failed
Status: 4.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; 72.83.60.85
Diagnostic-Code: x-error; Network error: Unexpectedly disconnected (BANNER)

Since the last October, I have been sending the mail, dozens of time, but the result have been always the same: Unexpectedly disconnected (BANNER)

What can I do next? Thank you for any help.

Mark

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Are you including “mailto:” in the email address? If so, you should not include it.

Have you tried contacting the administrators? The admin email address is mac-l-listmoms@hades.listmoms.net.

Also, if you use Facebook, it appears that the admins are active at https://www.facebook.com/Listmoms/ , so you may be able to message them there if email doesn’t get through.

Good luck!

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whois says the tech contact for the listmoms.net domain is:

Tech Name: Sabio, Vincent
Tech Phone: +1.4103814389
Tech Email: network-admin@VJS.ORG

If you send your original post to Vincent Sabio, he might be able to troubleshoot the email problem or at least alert the responsible parties.

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Thank you, josehill and Ron, for your suggestions. I tried to send mail to the following three addresses (the 2nd thanks to josehill, the 3rd thanks to Ron):

leave-mac-l@hades.listmoms.net
mac-l-listmoms@hades.listmoms.net
network-admin@vjs.org (Vincent Sabio)

from my TWO addresses (@eonet.ne.jp and @gmail.com). All failed, causing Returned mail, each 24-hour-plus-a-few-minutes later after I sent the mail. (So both of the TWO servers waited for 24 hours each time.)

eonet.ne.jp mail server says:

Final-Recipient: rfc822; leave-mac-l@hades.listmoms.net
Action: failed
Status: 4.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; 72.83.60.85
Diagnostic-Code: x-error; Network error: Unexpectedly disconnected (BANNER)

gmail.com mail server says:

The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. For more information,
go to Fix bounced or rejected emails - Gmail Help
[mail.vjs.org. 72.83.60.83: unable to read banner]

I don’t know what ‘BANNER’/’banner’ means, but I am guessing the mail server on the other side (72.83.60.8x) is not working any more (not too surprising after these 40 years…)

I also tried to open the link http://mail.vjs.org/ that was mentioned in Gmail’s Returned-mail. Safari opened a window tab, the progress bar stopped at one-tenth or so, and, after a long wait, Safari showed the “Can’t open the page” error.

I guess I have to give it up now. Thank you, everybody, for your interest.

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Surprising that the mail list is still sending.

As a last resort, and with low expectations, I would try sending mails to postmaster@vjs.org and postmaster@listmoms.net but… low expectations.

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From the list admins’ Facebook page, they recently upgraded some of their servers and have been adjusting some of their mail delivery settings, e.g., DMARC, so perhaps that is behind some of the issues. I asked someone to send them an FB message to let them know about this discussion thread. Maybe that will help.

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Hi folks - some very nice (and smart!) person from this group contacted me at our Facebook page to alert me to this issue. FWIW, Gmail has recently become even more of a problem for us than it has been in the past, both rejecting messages going TO Gmail as well as failing to send messages to my site FROM Gmail. Not sure what’s up with that.

Either way, the recommendation to contact us via our FB page was definitely on target – that’s what it’s out there for.

Mark: I found your full email address and submitted an unsubscribe for you; you should receive a confirmation email from the server. Apologies for all of the difficulties you had trying to get yourself off the list!

–VS

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It’s always great to see a responsive list admin! Thanks for your work on the Mac-L list and for addressing the issue!

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Hello, Vincent,

Thank you for your message, and handling the problem for me. About an hour ago, I certainly received a “You’ve been removed from the Mac-L list“ message at my eonet.ne.jp address, and a “Goodbye from Mac-L!“ message at my gmail.com address.

Thank you, Vincent, for your hard work for all these long years, and thank you, josehill, for your kind help!

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