Finder wants to make changes

Hello!

Can you help me to get rid of the annoying pop-up window “Finder wants to make changes. Enter your password to allow this.”

It does not go away after dozen of times entering my password. Then suddenly it goes…

It continued irregularly (but not every day) before update to Sonoma, and is back after the update.

Sometimes “Relaunch Finder” helps, sometimes not.

Thank you,
Egils

What are you doing before this dialog pops up?

And is your account an admin account?

Sometimes working with other apps, sometimes checking Mail…
Could not catch any pattern.

Yes, I am the Admin, no other Users.

I have several external HD connected. All of them, except Time Machine, have checkmark " Ignore ownership on this volume". Examples uploaded.

I’ve occasionally seen my Mac get into a weird state where dozens of random services all want to re-authenticate. The popups appear as fast as I can dismiss them (either with or without providing credentials). This usually happens if the Mac has been running for several weeks without a logout or reboot.

The only solution once it gets into this state is to reboot. If the popups pause long enough to request a restart from the Apple menu, I prefer to do it that way. But if that proves impossible, then I will have to perform a force-power-off (long-press the power button) and then power-on after 30 seconds. At which point, it all goes back to normal.

It looks like you may be seeing the same thing.

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When that happens, what about remote ssh login and sudo shutdown -r now? Does that work?

Remote login hangs. Probably due to the same authentication problem that’s causing an endless stream of popups requesting keychain passwords.

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The problem is gone now. Did few restarts…

System uptime: 2 days, 3:01, 1 user
macOS Version: 140000

Thnak you for the suggestions

Unfortunately the Finder still “wants to make changes”.
Mac OS Sonoma 14.3

Pops up irregularly. After entering password dozen times, the pop-ups are stopping. Returning in few days.

I’ve found on occasion that Safe Boot followed by normal boot eliminates recalcitrant pop-ups and other persistent odd behavior. In addition to preventing certain stuff from loading on startup, Safe Boot clears various caches that may hold the keys to the oddities.

Unfortunately the Finder still “wants to make changes”.
Updated to Mac OS Sonoma 14.5

Booting in the Safe mode helps, but it is annoying…

I wonder if there is a Permission problem. Copy and paste this line into Terminal
ls -laR ~/>/dev/null
Hit return. It will list files and folders with Permissions problems. Look for “Permission denied”

To check the external HD’s copy this into Terminal
ls -laR
make a space
then drag and drop the external HD into terminal, it will get you /Volumes/<The name of the HD>
then copy this >/dev/null
and hit return.

If you get no “Permission denied” lines, this is not the problem.
If you do, share the lines.

Thank you for the suggestion.

I did what you suggested:

Last login: Fri May 24 12:39:55 on console

You have mail.

egil@iMac ~ % ls -laR /Volumes/LaCie >/dev/null

ls: /Volumes/LaCie/.DocumentRevisions-V100: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/LaCie/.TemporaryItems: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/LaCie/.Trashes: Permission denied
egil@iMac ~ % ls -laR /Volumes/WD\ 2TB >/dev/null

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/.DocumentRevisions-V100: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V2/51956B92-9788-43D5-B955-15515A00B45F: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V2/DAB08BE8-BB03-47B8-981E-DCA523C0E5F4: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/.TemporaryItems: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/.spotlight_repair: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/.spotlight_temp: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/DirectoryServices/DefaultLocalDB/Default: Permission denied

ls -laR /Volumes/inateck\ Black >/dev/null

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/Library/Application Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/etc/cups/certs: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/agentx: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/at/tabs: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/at/tmp: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/audit: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/backups: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Store: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/analyticsd: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/applepay: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/caches/opendirectory: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/cmiodalassistants: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/com.apple.xpc.roleaccountd.staging: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/datadetectors: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/diagnostics: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/dslocal/nodes/Default: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/fpsd: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/geod: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/hidd: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/locationd: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/lockdown: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/nearbyd: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/nsurlsessiond: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/reportmemoryexception: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/securityagent: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/db/timed: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/install: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/jabberd: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/lib/postfix: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/ma: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/root: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/cups: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/mqueue: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/active: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/bounce: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/corrupt: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/defer: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/deferred: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/flush: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/hold: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/incoming: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/maildrop: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/private: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/public: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/saved: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Templates/Data/private/var/spool/postfix/trace: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD/usr/sbin/authserver: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/WD 2TB/Backups.backupdb/iMac/2023-06-07-034036/Macintosh HD - Data/.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware: Permission denied

The disk WD 2TB is Time Machine disk.

egil@iMac ~ % ls -laR /Volumes/inateck\ Black >/dev/null

ls: /Volumes/inateck Black/.DocumentRevisions-V100: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/inateck Black/.TemporaryItems: Permission denied
……………………………

egil@iMac ~ % ls -laR /Volumes/My\ Passport\ for\ Mac >/dev/null

ls: /Volumes/My Passport for Mac/.DocumentRevisions-V100: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/My Passport for Mac/.TemporaryItems: Permission denied

ls: /Volumes/My Passport for Mac/.Trashes: Permission denied

ls: fts_read: Permission denied

Try this too:

No lines after this:

egil@iMac ~ % ls -laR ~/>/dev/null
egil@iMac ~ %
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There are no permission problems with your /User/egil.

I have no Time Machine disk that I can check, but based on memory I think this is normal, hope somebody else can check. I will return later with the result of the other external disks since I have none with me just now. Just based on my memory, it looks OK.

I would have run the same commands the next time you get the “Finder wants to make changes.” Before entering your password.

Thank you!

Egils |

Looking a bit closer, this is something that I do not know what is. Using Google I found this by Thomas Tempelman who makes Find Any File:
https://blog.tempel.org/2019/04/dir-read-performance.html

I do not know if this is the reason, but it makes me curious.
Try finding the directory. If it is not hidden you should be able to do a Finder search.
Who is the owner of that directory?

To look inside you can use the terminal to open it in Finder.
sudo open
make a space
then drag and drop the fts_read folder into terminal
Return
Give it your admin password.

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Wasn’t able to find the folder…