Do You Use It? Safari Ranks as Top Mac Web Browser

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Which Web browsers do TidBITS readers use on their Macs? Safari, of course, but Firefox proved surprisingly popular, and an emphasis on privacy may account for several other unexpected deviations from global browser share numbers.

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Safari is my usual browser except in two circumstances: setting up and changing a password. Safari’s dogged insistence that I use its password suggestion, instead of one I want created in 1Password, has driven me to start the process again in Firefox. Sometimes a website has a requirement that Safari’s password doesn’t meet, e.g., specific special characters. Is there a way to disable Safari’s password creation, or at least to ignore it?

While I have used Safari for a long time, my current iMac is old enough that neither the OS nor Safari get updated. With the latest revelation about libwebp I have to assume that Safari on my machine is a potential victim, so I am moving to Firefox. I am now using both in roughly equal proportion.

There are some pros and cons. Firefox is not integrated into Apple’s password keeping system like Safari, but that means that Apple’s system does not get into the way of 1Password. However, 1P is not integrated into Firefox, nor is URL Manager Pro. So I have to do some manual operations. But I get Privacy Badger back too, and I get better visibility into and management of tabs and tab lists.

edit: I occasionally use DEVONagent Pro for deep and/or broad web searches.

You have another stat that may be worth exploring. How many use just one browser and which one. Maybe a chart like the one you sent but just unique to individuals

Browsers and Search Engines are not the same thing. DuckDuckGo, for example, is a Search Engine. Why is it included in the Browser survey?

I suspect a lot of regular users rely on just one browser, probably Safari, but TidBITS readers tend to have more experience and are comfortable downloading and using multiple browsers in specific situations. And it’s something I recommend! :slight_smile:

Because it’s also a browser now.

Download/installer links:

I have been a diehard Firefox user for more years than I can remember. Back then, when I switched to Firefox, Safari just didn’t have the look or the functionality that Firefox had, so it was an easy choice for me. I rarely use Safari, and invasive Chrome even less.

I use all of them. Mostly Chrome. But I use FireFox when compiling things on remote servers because the tab blinks on/off until done, so it’s easier to see. That doesn’t happen in Chrome or Safari, so it’s irritating. I only use Safari for extra testing, when needed.

I used to mainly use FireFox. They don’t have tab groups though, do they? I like the Chrome tab groups.

I only use Edge when playing with their new AI feature.

Why did Apple give up on their Windows version of Safari?

My guess is that it was probably nothing resembling a profit center. And there already are plenty of Windows web browsers out in the wild.

douglerner, I just did a quick web search, and from what I have seen, there are various ways to group tabs in Firefox. However, I am not sure if it is a built-in native function of Firefox yet. I did find this Firefox plugin which does group tabs. There may be more:

Thanks. I’ll take a look. What I’m doing now is just creating bookmarks in the toolbar containing multiple URLs and opening them as needed.

Firefox used to have tab groups via a feature called “Panorama”. It was introduced in version 4 (2011), but was later dropped in version 45 (2016).

I wrote about it a bit more back in June:

Today, there are a variety of add-ons to provide tab grouping.

I personally can’t imagine why people bother with Safari at all. I am diehard Firefox, for general performance but mainly the extensive customizability of just about everything with about:config. Don’t care for microscopic toolbar/menu bar font size, just resize it larger. Links slow to load, play around with connection & dns parameters. Scrolling too slow, just adjust the relevant settings. Can’t bear criminally persistent google login popups, just nuke them with the Privacy Badger add-on. Just a few among many, many tweakable settings once you dig under the hood a bit. Also, in my experience the built-in password handling is first rate.