Be careful with first-time Apple Card payments via the website

Sharing this here as I’m dealing with extremely lacklustre support from Apple and Goldman Sachs. (No surprise there. I’m happy to post a follow-up describing how that played out but I want to focus on issue at hand.)

Every month, once all my credit card statements have closed, I go through my accounts and schedule all payments at once so that I am sure I didn’t miss any of them. My Apple Card, though, was the exception - I’d have to use my iPhone, and if it wasn’t handy (such as in another room, and I didn’t want to get up), I’d forget to make the payment, or I’d put off scheduling payments until I had my phone again. (“Apple Card” is listed first in my Quicken accounts, which helps enable a pay-all-or-nothing process.) So, for nearly the entire time I’ve had my Apple Card, I’ve scheduled payments with this method, which is probably how 99% of Apple Card users also make their payments.

One of the nice, “it just works the way you expect it to” features when making payments is that it remembers which account you made your last payment from, so that scheduling your next payment is quick and easy:

Apple has started to implement more web-based options for managing the Apple Card, and for May’s payment, I decided to give the web interface a try, as that would reduce my dependency on my iPhone. Unfortunately, this did not work out as expected as it usually would, due to a really sneaky difference that one can fail to notice - for your first payment scheduled using the web interface, it will not default to the last account you’ve used when paying from your phone, but instead, the account whose bank name is alphabetically first. Unfortunately for me, that is not my usual payment account:


(The only thing unknown is whether or not the website will remember the last account used for future payments, I’m going to guess that it does.)

I shared this with Apple/Goldman Sachs in a chat, asking to have the payment corrected, but it had already gone through before I had caught it. Thankfully, the account it’s paying from does not charge any overdraft fees, so it should just bounce back, and I’ll immediately schedule a payment from the correct account once it does. I asked Apple Card chat support if any interest charges could be waived, since the default setting on the website was not something I noticed. As they can only issue a credit once the interest has been charged, they’ve put a note on my account, and I’ll have to contact them again once the interest has posted. I’ll share how that goes once I do that.

In hindsight, I should just set-up automatic payments, but I like manually entering the payments into my Quicken register and keeping an eye on cash flows. I should have also removed some bank accounts as I’ve streamlined down to using just one for all payments.

If you are like me and tend to be a little more hands-on with your finances, be mindful of this if you decide to use the Apple Card web site!

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In my experience, a lot of companies—both financial services and non-financial services—are similar in that an upcoming charge cannot be easily reversed by call center employees. But once a fee or service charge is present on an issued monthly statement, it’s usually easier to receive a credit or reversal from a customer service worker.

One (probably only, heh) benefit of the wait is that, at least where I live, local governments treat many service charges and fees as taxable. So a preemptive credit can fall short of the full amount that needs to be removed.

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Veering slightly here - what is the link to pay on the web?! I didn’t realize that had opened up.

Though I assume I’d need to set up an account wherever that is.

One “nice” thing about using the phone is that it “just works”. But that is the ONLY payment I make by phone.

Oh, sure! Just go to card.apple.com and login with your Apple Account. It’s not at 100% feature parity with on your phone, but it’s there.

You’re kind of caught there between two conflicting needs. But as a very long-time Quicken user, I wonder why you can’t go ahead and set up auto-payments in Wallet, then make a manual entry at the beginning of the month when Apple/GS sends its notice. Having the Web interface gives you the current balance due, and the only trick is to not make the payment through the Web interface.

When the automatic payment is completed, Quicken should match the payment and the amount to the entry you made.

Doing it this way means you do not have to go to your phone to use Wallet more than once.

Personally, I use the option in Wallet to make payment of the entire balance due every month. I used to have that payment automatically scheduled 3 business days before it was due, but as the Apple Card mechanism became more reliable, I let it go to the due date now. I only use Apple Card for major purchases of computers and iOS stuff, and use the interest-free installment plan.

Best of all worlds, because of the instant rebate, and helps our cash flow.

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I always use the iPhone wallet app to pay, and I usually schedule it for the last day of the month as soon as I know what the amount will be. I should probably just do automatic payment.

However, I was also slightly burned once by the Wallet app after making a partial payment using a different bank account in the middle of the month (it was really a budgeting issue - we usually pay all taxes by check, but I had to use a credit card once when I traveled without my checkbook). It was my fault for not paying attention, but the app defaulted to using the last bank account used for a payment when I made the final monthly payment. Thankfully I noticed it right away and was able to transfer enough funds to that account before the payment was done.

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I wish card.apple.com could also show past charges and details like the Wallet app. Presently, it offers only high-level balance details.

I get the full statement on my applecart and I print it out so that I can balance it. I’ve never had any problems with them.

So do I. But those only update on the 1st of the month.