Do you think, then, that people who leave a baseball game in the 7th inning or exit a play after the curtain drops but before the bows are expressing disapproval? Or is there any judgement implied by a seated person clapping while the people around them are standing and clapping?
Imagine that scenario where you finish your point by telling the person that they must be positive or say nothing at all.
And I’ll illustrate it right now by telling you that you can agree with me with a heart or say nothing at all.
I’m English, I’ve never been to a baseball game ![]()
Also worth noting that you can set specific users as “ignore” on their profile page and then you’ll never see any of their posts. I’m no stranger to that function
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I’d say leaving in the 7th inning would be similar to leaving a football match in the 75th minute or going home after 2/3 of a F1 race (other than Monaco, heh).
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ETA: I guess the ignore threat above has been carried out. I have trouble seeing how that contributes to “positivity, inclusion, and friendliness”.
Sort of: I don’t see the point in the
reaction, to me it means the same as
. To be honest, I think the only additional reactions that have any use are
and
. They are both clear and useful reactions. Personally I would also find
very useful, because to me it’s a more emphatic version of
. But @ace tried it and then decided it wasn’t differentiated enough.
In that original discussion the issue of
and
being too similar was also raised (not just by me), and Adam was going to monitor the use of them. Given the many more important things he has to do I don’t know if he ever did any analysis on this, but as the reactions were working without issue (until now?) I suspect there was no need.
I think the more accurate analogy is you finish your point by telling the person that if they don’t simply agree or laugh, they must say something constructive or nothing at all.
I don’t agree that that’s more accurate, but in any case the larger point remains that it’s an attempt to control what people are allowed to say, hardly a model for reasonable discussion.
(it’s also going to lead to pointless side arguments about whether a reply is “constructive.”)
Indeed. I’ve had to make use of that too in an unfortunate circumstance.
But, to the point of this thread, ignoring a poster doesn’t hide their reaction icons. So even if you have somebody set to ignore so you don’t have to read their negativity, if they crap over somebody else’s post with their sniper
, you’ll still be exposed to that negativity.
I’d go so far as to consider that a Discourse bug.
I can appreciate a post without saying “I agree” because there are many things that are not a matter of opinion and thus not a question of agree/disagree and yet they still spark joy. Like say when somebody posts a picture of a beautiful vintage Mac used in a modern day setting, I would appreciate that with a
because it brightened my day. But I would not “agree” with that via
because that’s not an agree/disagree issue. But I assume this difference is rooted in the fact that perhaps some see
not so much as agree (as indicated by @ace’s tooltip) but rather just the conventional thumbs up as in “nice!”.
I don’t understand that. If we agree that
is for “good/nice post”, that’s something different than “I agree 100%”
. But to me, since I take
as indicated by its tooltip as “I agree” that would make
a dupe of
.
[Edit: it just occurred to me that your post is a good example for me of
vs.
. I think it is a good post and offers an interesting angle to add to this discussion, but I don’t necessarily agree with the included suggestion. So to me, your post is clearly deserving of
even though in a strict literal sense for me it would perhaps rather be disagreement.]
Given the many and varied interpretations these emoji seem to have, I’ve decided to move in the direction of simplicity, with just:
for like, agree, nice, good job, etc.
for “That’s amusing!”
for thanking someone to head off repetitive Thank You posts.
If you want additional nuance, use your indoor voice. ![]()
Let’s see how that works for a while.
It’s interesting to see that Discourse preserves the old reactions on previous posts. I was about to ask how it maps between old and new, but I guess it doesn’t and instead just preserves the previous.
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(does that count as using my inside voice?)
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(I guess the demoted emojis won’t have any official meaning now)
My understanding (from having been around many classicists) is that the “thumbs down” in the image meant that the defeated gladiator’s life was to be spared. In other words, to the person who was most interested in gesture, it was a good thing.
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(reaction formerly known as “wow”)
Interesting…so much for depending on Hollywood films for historical knowledge.
Yes.
Thumbs up meant “run him through with your sword”. Thumbs down meant “put your sword back in its scabbard”.
Think of the thumb as the sword and its motion being what the emperor wanted done with that sword.
But what does Perplexity say?
It is interesting that something can completely flip in meaning. In my youth, “couldn’t care less” meant extreme disinterest. I understand that “could care less” later meant the same thing.
It looks like Perplexity, with the prompt I used, agrees with your statement with a caveat that it can’t find any definitive scholarly resources. It does point to a 19th century painting and a Wikipedia article as support for its assertions.
Maybe we could use word Emojis? are there more like the Thank You one, so we are using specific words but in Emoji form for ease of display?..