iOS Music and iTunes Store Apps Stumble over Deleted Tracks

Thanks for the link. It appears that this won’t be as complete a rebuild as you may think. It says that the music library functionality (and I assume also the rip/mix/burn functionality) isn’t changing.

The big change is that the parts that are currently an embedded web browser (e.g. the iTunes Store, Apple Music, etc.) are being rewritten using a tool that will make an actual application from the current embedded web-app.

I assume so, since it is (apparently) going to ship with macOS 12.2, which isn’t dropping support for the Intel platform.

I assume “full native” is referring to the fact that it won’t be embedding web apps anymore, the way it and iTunes have done for quite a long time.

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The article doesn’t say much about music management, only what it calls web related issues such as Apple Music. Many people are having issues related to their art, metadata, and loss of tracks/albums so whether that improves remains to be seen. Since all of my music is from my own CD’s or digitized records and I don’t download albums or use iTunes Match, I’ve had no issues but I can see where many hope that the new Music app will work better than some previous ones.

Thanks. Will look at Dupin

Would iMazing help? Heard it recommended everywhere.

I just ran across this Apple support article:

It is talking about apps, not music, but the behavior seems to be identical to what I observed regarding iTunes Store purchases:

So the behavior is not a bug, but Apple certainly went out of its way to hide the behavior from normal users.

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re. iMazing (and similar apps).

I don’t really get the point of most of the functions that apps like iMazing are offering in this respect. Outside of emergency cases where you have to get media or other data off an iDevice because Apple don’t offer a solution (eg. SMS backups, transferring media off the iDevice to Mac/PC, etc.), they seem dodgy because surely they’re circumventing the official Apple methods for managing media.

I’ve never used them, so I could be entirely wrong. But the idea of using them to actually manage content instead of the official Apple interface, strikes me as a massive potential to screw-up the iDevice itself and/or your data on said iDevice?

Apple have written the underlying code for adding/removing media from iDevices via Mac/PC directly or cloud sync, whereas apps like these are attempting to do it their own “special” ways, which are more than likely going to screw things up accordingly.

I don’t know about the full set of capabilities, but I’ve found iMazing to be very useful on two occasions when I wanted to transfer a single app (games) to a new device, copying its locally-stored data at the same time (since these apps only sync state via Facebook, which I don’t use).

Using Apple’s official mechanism, you can only backup/restore an entire device. So I can’t transfer one app’s content without making the target device a clone of the source (which I definitely do not want to do).

With iMazing, I can make a backup of the source device (or grant it access to a backup made via iTunes/Finder) and it will locate the specific data used by the app(s) I want to migrate. It then uses what I believe to be Apple’s restore mechanism to copy the data to the destination device. Once this is done, the destination device reboots (much like after a system restore) and the app(s) are installed from the App Store server. Once installed, the app(s) are able to find the migrated data and run normally with that data.

I understand, yes sounds like one of those useful scenarios for said apps like iMazing, and a good example of why the existence of these apps may be good.

But as I mentioned, they stretch their feature set beyond those special functions Apple doesn’t offer, and into everyday tasks that Apple already does offer. And I wonder, given they’re circumvention of Apple’s methodologies for doing everyday tasks like media management, if using these apps’ methods for these functions is to be relied upon, without them inadvertently causing problems later on.

I’m fairly certain that if the files you are deleting are not in your managed Music folder, the Music app won’t even give you the option to delete the files. This option is only presented when the files are in the managed folder.

It was supposed to be in Monterey 12.2 I believe. I’m there and Music seems like the same buggy mess at this point, except it seems the scrolling in song view bug hasn’t reappeared for me yet. I’m on Intel though, maybe only the M1 side gets the claimed improvements.