No, you’ve produced such ID. If you hadn’t had it, the TSA would have used other methods to identify you. From the TSA:
“Passengers who present a state-issued identification that is not REAL ID compliant at TSA checkpoints and who do not have another acceptable alternative form of ID will be notified of their non-compliance, may be directed to a separate area and may receive additional screening.”
You’ll get extra screening and they’ll ask you questions to verify who you are but people travel all the time without valid ID.
There’s a serious constitutional issue here, which is that the Supreme Court has held the Constitution protects both freedom of assembly and freedom of movement. The TSA has avoided an adverse ruling for them by telling courts when sued that they do not require ID but would do heightened screening instead for someone without ID (most notably in Gilmore v Gonzalez [2007]).
And yet, the Supreme Court doesn’t seem to have a problem with the State of CA requiring me to carry a valid DL whenever I drive on the public roadway. It’s hard to rationalize why you can be required to identify yourself on the public roadway, but that requiring the exact same for public airways/aprons all of a sudden somehow should present a constitutional problem. /OT
And when you fly a plane, you need a pilot’s license. When you’re a passenger in a car or on a plane, you don’t need ID.*
(The constitutional logic is that vehicles like cars and planes present such a potential danger to other people that states & the federal government have the right to reasonably regulate those who operate them).
*I should mention that this applies to US domestic travel.
Umm no, actually none of them had “pilot’s licenses” qualifying them to pilot the two 767s or the two 757s they hijacked. Not even close.
That’s exactly the point. The only thing between people like that and 9/11 is good security screening. And good security screening relies on knowing who’s boarding. Checking government issued photo ID is an efficient and perfectly reasonable manner of implementing that. So yeah, if it’s good enough for driving a 150cc bike in CA, it should be just fine for boarding a 250-ton airliner in DFW. Now while the current SC might think different about that, that shouldn’t deter from reason. Plenty of corrections have been required over the years once reason prevailed. Korematsu v. US is a perhaps lesser known case than the commonly cited Dred Scott v. Sanford to make that point.
I loaded my Calif. DL. Never used it and probably never will.
I tried to load my passport, but didn’t work. The photo on my passport isn’t great so maybe that’s the problem. But returning to the US from abroad I haven’t needed my passport. Face scan does it as I have Global Entry.
But I would like to have my passport in Wallet in case I lose or misplace my passport.
Main reason to install these now is to show the usefulness and having a backup. Apple Pay wasn’t very useful a few years ago, but now I only seem to need my credit card in some restaurants. When the US catches up with the rest of the world, that won’t even be necessary. In a few years (decade) something like passports in Wallet will be all we need or maybe the implanted RFID .
I’ve wondered how Apple selects which countries (and which US states) to enable digital ID. In Australia, we have had digital drivers licences and other digital IDs for some time and so it should be easy for Apple to let ours into Apple Wallet.
But a note of caution as some countries will not accept digital drivers licences and other forms of digital ID at their borders. Some car rental companies will not accept digital drivers licences. Best to take hardcopies.
I’d be surprised if Apple wasn’t choosing but instead has offered this capability to whichever legal entity wants to use it. It was announced with State IDs four years ago and it would appear that Apple contacted multiple US states when this was announced.
Android phones also support this - it’s a standard and not proprietary Apple technology.
A mobile ID does not replace a physical ID or driver’s license, and residents must continue to carry their physical ID or license, according to the Secretary of State’s Office. Giannoulias said motorists must continue to carry a physical driver’s license.
“The legislation that was passed does not allow law enforcement to use it, as of now, which is probably the right thing,” said Giannoulias, who later added that people should consider the mobile ID as “complementary for the time being.”
The first time a tried it (Omaha), it appeared to accept it but nothing came through and eventually the agent reset the system and I presented a physical document. At the second airport (Syracuse) it just did nothing. In both cases, the agents told me that the system was live. However, neither of them had actually ever tried it.
We have a chicken-and-egg situation with Digital IDs. Without a substantial base of folks with Digital IDs, there’s not much reason for the agencies to invest in appropriate terminals and training; without the ability to use them, there’s not much reason to actually get a Digital ID. It took Apple Pay and other forms of contactless payment years to actually be useful. Now, it’s rare to find a place that accepts credit cards but not contactless payment.
So, if you think a Digital ID may be useful, get one and, at appropriate places, try to use it. That’s a way to encourage the necessary infrastructure to develop.
Of course, the appropriate use of a Digital ID is more complex than a credit transaction. As I understand the process, when you encounter a terminal, you bring up the Digital ID. After it establishes a link to the terminal, your device displays the information that will be shown on the terminal. You then authenticate on your device, and that information and only that information is then shown on the terminal. So, unlike credit card terminals (which are easy even for individuals to obtain), these terminals must be coded and certified to ask for only the information appropriate for the facility where they are installed.
The 9/11 terrorists had driver’s (and pilot’s) licenses. Didn’t help stop them, did it?
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