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Randy Spydell-2
OK, I don't see it coming back. Does ANYONE have a suggestion for software to best manage my iPhone Apps from my Mac?

I really miss Snow Leopard. But, I think (I hope) I've gotten over it.

However, I REALLY REALLY am angry that I cannot manage the apps on my iPhone with iTunes.

It's a phone (and maybe a camera). My fingers are fat and the screen is small. I want to be able to manage the Apps on a much larger screen and using a mouse (or trackpad) and keyboard. If this feature is truly completely and utterly gone from iTunes, never to return, does anyone know of a third party software package that will jump into this void?

I've been using a Mac for almost 34 years, and I love the old Human Interface Guidelines. I don't understand why this feature was removed. So now I'm looking for an end run around iTunes 12.7.3.46 inadequacies short of tossing my iPhone in the recycle bucket and never buying another.

Randy

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Re: managing my iPhone apps

Al Varnell
Two solutions have been suggested to business ITs who need to manage their company iDevice fleet.

- iTunes 12.6.3 I've only found to be available from <https://support.apple.com/HT208079>.


-Al-

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 03:58 PM, Randy Spydell wrote:
OK, I don't see it coming back. Does ANYONE have a suggestion for software to best manage my iPhone Apps from my Mac?

I really miss Snow Leopard. But, I think (I hope) I've gotten over it.

However, I REALLY REALLY am angry that I cannot manage the apps on my iPhone with iTunes.

It's a phone (and maybe a camera). My fingers are fat and the screen is small. I want to be able to manage the Apps on a much larger screen and using a mouse (or trackpad) and keyboard. If this feature is truly completely and utterly gone from iTunes, never to return, does anyone know of a third party software package that will jump into this void?

I've been using a Mac for almost 34 years, and I love the old Human Interface Guidelines. I don't understand why this feature was removed. So now I'm looking for an end run around iTunes 12.7.3.46 inadequacies short of tossing my iPhone in the recycle bucket and never buying another.

Randy



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Re: managing my iPhone apps

James R Cutler
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Randy,

Managing apps on an iDevice is now apparently a two step process:
  • Obtain apps and updates from the iDevice App Store
  • Shuffle home screen content using Apple Configurator 2 on your mac
In theory, Apple Configurator 2 should be able to do the first step. Whenever I have tried to update an iDevice or iDevice app using the configurator, it just hangs forever saying it is waiting for the device. I can’t report a bug, because the documentation for the app is effectively non-existent.

Good luck.

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On Jan 29, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Randy Spydell <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK, I don't see it coming back. Does ANYONE have a suggestion for software to best manage my iPhone Apps from my Mac?

I really miss Snow Leopard. But, I think (I hope) I've gotten over it.

However, I REALLY REALLY am angry that I cannot manage the apps on my iPhone with iTunes.

It's a phone (and maybe a camera). My fingers are fat and the screen is small. I want to be able to manage the Apps on a much larger screen and using a mouse (or trackpad) and keyboard. If this feature is truly completely and utterly gone from iTunes, never to return, does anyone know of a third party software package that will jump into this void?

I've been using a Mac for almost 34 years, and I love the old Human Interface Guidelines. I don't understand why this feature was removed. So now I'm looking for an end run around iTunes 12.7.3.46 inadequacies short of tossing my iPhone in the recycle bucket and never buying another.

Randy

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Re: managing my iPhone apps

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On 29 Jan 2018, at 17:58, Randy Spydell [hidden email] wrote:

OK, I don't see it coming back. Does ANYONE have a suggestion for software to best manage my iPhone Apps from my Mac?

Check out iMazing at iMazing.com

It does everything I need and some things I don't. But I wouldn't want to be without it. Need to offload and archive all your iMessages, do automated backups of devices, do installation or removal of apps, do installation of iOS upgrades, etc., etc. There is a free download. I really like it.

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Re: managing my iPhone apps

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On 29 Jan 2018, at 16:58, Randy Spydell [hidden email]> wrote:
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> OK, I don't see it coming back. Does ANYONE have a suggestion for software to best manage my iPhone Apps from my Mac?

Apple Configurator 2 (free in the Mac App Store) works, but it is not really setup for the sorts of arranging apps and adding/removing apps as iTunes was.

I can DO it, but the features are not as simple as they were in iTunes.

As an example, arranging the apps on the iOS device is an entirely different area of the app from removing an app.

OTOH, Configurator 2 does much much more, so if you want to setup a bunch of identical iPads, that's definitely your tool.

But the option was removed from iTunes because 1) people have been complaining about how iTunes does too much for a decade and 2) I know no one who used that feature. Nearly everyone I know has never plugged in their current iOS device to a computer unless it was as a charger port.

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Re: managing my iPhone apps

Brian L. Matthews
On 1/29/18 8:54 PM, @lbutlr wrote:
 > I know no one who used that feature.

That's interesting, I know no one (of the 10 or so I've talked to about
it) that doesn't.

Brian


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Re: managing my iPhone apps

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> But the option was removed from iTunes because 1) people have been complaining about how iTunes does too much for a decade and 2) I know no one who used that feature. Nearly everyone I know has never plugged in their current iOS device to a computer unless it was as a charger port.


Sadly, it was the only way I used to arrange my screen. I hate doing it on the phone itself :(

Diane




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Re: managing my iPhone apps

Levanah Tenen
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Try iMazing, by DigiDNA — https://imazing.com/ . It’s an alternate iPhone management app; not only can you manage your apps on your mac, it will handle file transfers between mac-and-phone (both directions), do backups, and view areas of your phone’s storage system that Apple apps don’t let on even exist. It definitely qualifies as “an end run around iTunes,” IMO. :-)

Developers keep up with current Apple changes-in-support; I’ve used this software (and its antecedents) for years, and have been quite happy with it.


> On Jan 30, 2018, at 9:00 AM,Randy Spydell <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> OK, I don't see it coming back. Does ANYONE have a suggestion for software to best manage my iPhone Apps from my Mac?
>
> I really miss Snow Leopard. But, I think (I hope) I've gotten over it.
>
> However, I REALLY REALLY am angry that I cannot manage the apps on my iPhone with iTunes.
>
> It's a phone (and maybe a camera). My fingers are fat and the screen is small. I want to be able to manage the Apps on a much larger screen and using a mouse (or trackpad) and keyboard. If this feature is truly completely and utterly gone from iTunes, never to return, does anyone know of a third party software package that will jump into this void?
>
> I've been using a Mac for almost 34 years, and I love the old Human Interface Guidelines. I don't understand why this feature was removed. So now I'm looking for an end run around iTunes 12.7.3.46 inadequacies short of tossing my iPhone in the recycle bucket and never buying another.
>
> Randy




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On Jan 30, 2018, at 12:40, Diane <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sadly, it was the only way I used to arrange my screen. I hate doing it on the phone itself :(

It’s much better in iOS 11 since you can move multiple items at once. (Re)arranging the iOS screen is much faster now on iOS that it was in iTunes.

Granted, it requires learning a new way of doing things, but it *is* better.

Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I rarely rearrange my screen other than to drop new downloads into a folder.

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Re: managing my iPhone apps

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I’ve been using iMazing for a few months, and agree with this assessment.  I highly recommend at least going to their web site to check out what it can do.

Chuck

On Jan 30, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Levanah Tenen <[hidden email]> wrote:

Try iMazing, by DigiDNA — https://imazing.com/ . It’s an alternate iPhone management app; not only can you manage your apps on your mac, it will handle file transfers between mac-and-phone (both directions), do backups, and view areas of your phone’s storage system that Apple apps don’t let on even exist. It definitely qualifies as “an end run around iTunes,” IMO. :-)

Developers keep up with current Apple changes-in-support; I’ve used this software (and its antecedents) for years, and have been quite happy with it.


On Jan 30, 2018, at 9:00 AM,Randy Spydell <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK, I don't see it coming back. Does ANYONE have a suggestion for software to best manage my iPhone Apps from my Mac?

I really miss Snow Leopard. But, I think (I hope) I've gotten over it.

However, I REALLY REALLY am angry that I cannot manage the apps on my iPhone with iTunes.

It's a phone (and maybe a camera). My fingers are fat and the screen is small. I want to be able to manage the Apps on a much larger screen and using a mouse (or trackpad) and keyboard. If this feature is truly completely and utterly gone from iTunes, never to return, does anyone know of a third party software package that will jump into this void?

I've been using a Mac for almost 34 years, and I love the old Human Interface Guidelines. I don't understand why this feature was removed. So now I'm looking for an end run around iTunes 12.7.3.46 inadequacies short of tossing my iPhone in the recycle bucket and never buying another.

Randy




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Re: managing my iPhone apps

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Apple Configurator 2 initally worked with iTunes 12.6.3 but stopped working after Apps Store update it to 2.6.1. Configurator 2 now hangs on a popup dialog dox 'The required framework “MobileDevice” is out of date. Please update iTunes’ .

iMazing has NOT allowed me to install  iOS 8.1.2 over a iOS 9.3.1 iPhone 4S.
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On Jan 30, 2018, at 12:14, LuKreme <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Jan 30, 2018, at 12:40, Diane <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sadly, it was the only way I used to arrange my screen. I hate doing it on the phone itself :(

It’s much better in iOS 11 since you can move multiple items at once. (Re)arranging the iOS screen is much faster now on iOS that it was in iTunes.

Granted, it requires learning a new way of doing things, but it *is* better.

Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I rarely rearrange my screen other than to drop new downloads into a folder.

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On 1 Feb 2018, at 18:02, Thomas Treadway [hidden email]> wrote:
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> Apple Configurator 2 initally worked with iTunes 12.6.3 but stopped working after Apps Store update it to 2.6.1. Configurator 2 now hangs on a popup dialog dox 'The required framework “MobileDevice” is out of date. Please update iTunes’ .

Apple Configurator 2 was never intended to work with iTunes 12.6.3

> iMazing has NOT allowed me to install  iOS 8.1.2 over a iOS 9.3.1 iPhone 4S.

Of course not. It has never been supported to install an older iOS over a newer one.

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Re: managing my iPhone apps

David Ross
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Birds of a feather flock together.

Many of would be considered "old farts" and got used to doing many things a certain way a decade or few ago. Most iPhone owners were born after we got our first (or fourth) computer and do things differently.


On 1/30/18 2:34 AM, Brian L. Matthews wrote:
On 1/29/18 8:54 PM, @lbutlr wrote:
> I know no one who used that feature.

That's interesting, I know no one (of the 10 or so I've talked to about it) that doesn't.

Brian




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