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iTunes Match

Chip Morris
I’ve got about 800GB in music spread across two external HDs and my MBA. It’s time to tackle this mess and I’ll be getting a 2TB external HD to put all of the music on and I’m also thinking of getting iTunes Match but I have a couple of questions.

I have many 100s of Beatles songs. They come from the first time they were released on CD to virtually every re-release since then, plus I have bootlegs. It’s quite possible that I might have, for example, 10 versions of She Loves You. How will iTunes Match handle these? I’d like to have all of them available (why? it’s a Beatles thing) in the cloud so I can pick and choose which version I might want to listen to. It’s quite possible that one version is the exact same as another version—original release & greatest hits, for example, or they could be different—mono vs stereo or a different mix.

In general, I don’t understand how iTunes Match handles duplicates, Beatles or otherwise.

Also, I assume that my originals aren’t touched (deleted) at all. Apple just uses my library for reference as to what to upload or allow me to stream.

Any help on understanding dups or iTunes Match in general is appreciated.

Thanks.

Chip


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Re: iTunes Match

John Robinson-3
Do not allow Apple to interface with your own digital music files. Keep your music files on a separate server if you plan to use Apple Music. There have been reports of disasters when allowing Apple to replace your own music files.

Listen to Apple Music but not mixed w your own collection.

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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Chip Morris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I’ve got about 800GB in music spread across two external HDs and my MBA. It’s time to tackle this mess and I’ll be getting a 2TB external HD to put all of the music on and I’m also thinking of getting iTunes Match but I have a couple of questions.
>
> I have many 100s of Beatles songs. They come from the first time they were released on CD to virtually every re-release since then, plus I have bootlegs. It’s quite possible that I might have, for example, 10 versions of She Loves You. How will iTunes Match handle these? I’d like to have all of them available (why? it’s a Beatles thing) in the cloud so I can pick and choose which version I might want to listen to. It’s quite possible that one version is the exact same as another version—original release & greatest hits, for example, or they could be different—mono vs stereo or a different mix.
>
> In general, I don’t understand how iTunes Match handles duplicates, Beatles or otherwise.
>
> Also, I assume that my originals aren’t touched (deleted) at all. Apple just uses my library for reference as to what to upload or allow me to stream.
>
> Any help on understanding dups or iTunes Match in general is appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Chip
>
>
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Re: iTunes Match

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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 12:57, John Robinson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Do not allow Apple to interface with your own digital music files. Keep your music files on a separate server if you plan to use Apple Music.

Apple Music and iTunes Match or not the same thing…



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Re: iTunes Match

Fearghas McKay
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> On 5 Jan 2018, at 12:57, John Robinson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Do not allow Apple to interface with your own digital music files. Keep your music files on a separate server if you plan to use Apple Music. There have been reports of disasters when allowing Apple to replace your own music files.
>
> Listen to Apple Music but not mixed w your own collection.

Apple Music is not iTunes Match.

One is a music service, the other is a smart storage solution for music in your iTunes collection. Although somewhat obfuscated in terms of what it will to your music if you have a lot of rare ripped content.

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Re: iTunes Match

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On 05 Jan 2018, at 10:36, Chip Morris <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I have many 100s of Beatles songs. They come from the first time they were released on CD to virtually every re-release since then, plus I have bootlegs. It’s quite possible that I might have, for example, 10 versions of She Loves You. How will iTunes Match handle these? I’d like to have all of them available (why? it’s a Beatles thing) in the cloud so I can pick and choose which version I might want to listen to. It’s quite possible that one version is the exact same as another version—original release & greatest hits, for example, or they could be different—mono vs stereo or a different mix.
>
> In general, I don’t understand how iTunes Match handles duplicates, Beatles or otherwise.

In genreal, iTunes Match is pretty good about matching a song to an album, but it cannot usually distinguish between two songs on two “identical” albums. So, for example, the first issue of Yellow Submarine on CD and the most recent CD will be treated the same and only one will match to what is in iTunes. But I have several versions of Strawberry Fields Forever from different albums (MMT, Blue Box, 1967-70, as well as some covers)

Initially I had problems where my mono tracks were matched to stereo tracks, for example.

I spent a lot of time trying to manage everything and finally gave up, as the convenience of keeping them available everywhere trumped the need to keep multiple versions (for me)

But I do have the mono tracks in my main library and at least with The Beatles the mono stuff is now distinguished in the iTunes Music store, so I am getting mono versions on my phone as well.

I don’t think the iTunes Match algorithms have improved, but the music on the ITMS seem to be better organized, which helps.

That said, none of the bootlegs will match anything, and if you have three different issues of the ‘same’ album that ITMS doesn’t distinguish you’re not going to match more than one version.

(One note, sometime a track will show up as “stereo” because of joint encoding, but that appears to be fixed in the current iTunes, at least on a spot check of a half dozen mono tracks).

iTunes Match does not replace any of your music. However, if you have any older low-quality rips, you can delete those and then download 256K AAC files from Apple. I did this with almost all of my free 2005 tracks. As always, keep backups until you are sure everything is in good shape. Anything that didn’t match will just download your originals.

And there will be messes to clean up. Sometimes you will have a single track that doesn’t match for no apparent reason. Sometime retrying will work. Sometimes editing the album name (even if you ‘edit’ it to be exactly a it was) will work.

It’s a useful service for $25 a year, at least for a year, but it definitely has its issues.

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Re: iTunes Match

James R Cutler
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Here’s expansion on John Robinson’s comment.

Keep your original music collection pristine and well backed up and, most important, not in iTunes.

To use Match, in iTunes > Preferences > Advanced, check "Copy file to iTunes Media folder when adding to library". Now import your collection into iTunes, enable Match, and be content you have prevented Apple from completely destroying all your work.

Note, you may have to create a new iTunes library.

On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:57 AM, John Robinson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Do not allow Apple to interface with your own digital music files. Keep your music files on a separate server




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