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George Wade
I am hoping to go and live on an island that has very spotty web access. It would be very helpful to know in advance ¿ 'How to maintain a weather summary all day, ! during hurricane season it is important to compare forecasts with realtime on the ground.

Does most of the answer lie in the Firefox / File / Work Offline, for example. Are there other crucial factors that I have probably not imagined yet ?

Devices that could be taken:~ Older MacBook; newer MacBook; small iPad; very small new iPod Touch.

One member of the party may wish to keep in periodic touch, every day or three, with work. Might a personal iCloud HDD be helpful or even crucial!

Later in the year, or next year, I might go sailing for a month and catching up by island coffee shop would be sporadic.  I do not have to solve that second challenge immediately.

Thanks in advance, George


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Re: Work offline

Alexander Forbes
I wasn’t clear whether or how you might be doing this now and what sensors or instrumentation you’ve invested in already. If you will just be starting this tracking project, my advice is to keep it simple unless you really need to maintain continuous chronological record on a Mac or mobile device.

For the regional forecast, how spotty might web reception be and by what means do you get it? Satellite? I use NOAA in Phoenix for forecasts, radar reflectivity maps and monsoon flood warnings. 

For local realtime comparisons, do you plan on manual data entry if there will be permanent record-keeping? If so, an aneroid barometer, outdoor thermometer and humidity indicator should cover most needs. The barometer is the one to watch.

You might check out Oregon Scientific for their line of home weather instrumentation. If you buy the wi-fi outdoor thermometer, don’t buy the cheaper one. 

Alex

On Jan 29, 2018, at 1:02 PM, George Wade <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am hoping to go and live on an island that has very spotty web access. It would be very helpful to know in advance ¿ 'How to maintain a weather summary all day, ! during hurricane season it is important to compare forecasts with realtime on the ground




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Re: Work offline

Curtis Wilcox
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On Jan 29, 2018, at 3:02 PM, George Wade <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am hoping to go and live on an island that has very spotty web access. It would be very helpful to know in advance ¿ 'How to maintain a weather summary all day, ! during hurricane season it is important to compare forecasts with realtime on the ground.

Does most of the answer lie in the Firefox / File / Work Offline, for example. Are there other crucial factors that I have probably not imagined yet ?

Devices that could be taken:~ Older MacBook; newer MacBook; small iPad; very small new iPod Touch.

One member of the party may wish to keep in periodic touch, every day or three, with work. Might a personal iCloud HDD be helpful or even crucial!

Later in the year, or next year, I might go sailing for a month and catching up by island coffee shop would be sporadic.  I do not have to solve that second challenge immediately.

For weather information specifically, I would be inclined to not rely on the Internet at all and have radio instead. In addition to whatever FM and AM stations you can receive, there's NOAA Weather Radio All Hazards, which is broadcast on dedicated VHF bands  "(NWR) is a nationwide network of radio stations broadcasting continuous weather information directly from the nearest National Weather Service office." I don't know which islands you mean but "NWR includes 1025 transmitters, covering all 50 states, adjacent coastal waters, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the U.S. Pacific Territories."

These recommended radios can receive the broadcasts in addition to FM and AM.

But it's probably also worth knowing about goods websites or mobile apps for weather information that have been designed with absent or spotty Internet connections in mind. I can't suggest any but a term that might be useful in the search is Progressive Web Apps (PWA). Working with spotty or absent network connections is supposed to be part of the design criteria for PWAs. Safari doesn't have all the underlying support to use PWAs but it will later this year and Firefox on the Mac should now. Also, a PWA site may use fallbacks that aren't as good as "the real thing" but will allow them to work on a poor connection in browsers that don't have full support.

There might be some unconventional ways of getting weather information that could work in this situation, like getting weather information as an auto-reply to an SMS message or within a messaging app. There's supposed to be The Weather Channel App for iMessage but iTunes says it's not in the U.S. store 




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Re: Work offline

George Wade
I do have an FM / AM / Short wave receiver, Curtis. Thanks for reminding me. It has six rechargeable batteries.

The notes on Progressive Web Apps looks hopeful. Thank you for that. The first island I hope to visit is Cuba.

George

On 29 Jan 2018, at 19:01, Curtis Wilcox wrote:

On Jan 29, 2018, at 3:02 PM, George Wade <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am hoping to go and live on an island that has very spotty web access. It would be very helpful to know in advance ¿ 'How to maintain a weather summary all day, ! during hurricane season it is important to compare forecasts with realtime on the ground.

Does most of the answer lie in the Firefox / File / Work Offline, for example. Are there other crucial factors that I have probably not imagined yet ?

Devices that could be taken:~ Older MacBook; newer MacBook; small iPad; very small new iPod Touch.

One member of the party may wish to keep in periodic touch, every day or three, with work. Might a personal iCloud HDD be helpful or even crucial!

Later in the year, or next year, I might go sailing for a month and catching up by island coffee shop would be sporadic.  I do not have to solve that second challenge immediately.

For weather information specifically, I would be inclined to not rely on the Internet at all and have radio instead. In addition to whatever FM and AM stations you can receive, there's NOAA Weather Radio All Hazards, which is broadcast on dedicated VHF bands  "(NWR) is a nationwide network of radio stations broadcasting continuous weather information directly from the nearest National Weather Service office." I don't know which islands you mean but "NWR includes 1025 transmitters, covering all 50 states, adjacent coastal waters, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the U.S. Pacific Territories."

These recommended radios can receive the broadcasts in addition to FM and AM.

But it's probably also worth knowing about goods websites or mobile apps for weather information that have been designed with absent or spotty Internet connections in mind. I can't suggest any but a term that might be useful in the search is Progressive Web Apps (PWA). Working with spotty or absent network connections is supposed to be part of the design criteria for PWAs. Safari doesn't have all the underlying support to use PWAs but it will later this year and Firefox on the Mac should now. Also, a PWA site may use fallbacks that aren't as good as "the real thing" but will allow them to work on a poor connection in browsers that don't have full support.

There might be some unconventional ways of getting weather information that could work in this situation, like getting weather information as an auto-reply to an SMS message or within a messaging app. There's supposed to be The Weather Channel App for iMessage but iTunes says it's not in the U.S. store 





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