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Ron Paris
Hi,
My wife and I have just returned from a trip to Europe where we carried
around a MacBook for a number of reasons. With weight restrictions and the
like on airlines, I am really thinking there must be a better way to be
able to stay in touch and do things we presently use the MacBook to do. I
have been reading a lot about the iPad in the hopes that I could use this
to accomplish most if not all that we do on the MacBook.

Photography is a serious hobby for me. I use the MacBook to download my
pictures, I then do the first cull of the pictures there. Is this
something I could do on the iPad as well? I use both Compact Flash and SD
cards when I travel.

I back these pictures up to a small portable drive I carry using
TimeMachine. Is it easy to back up an iPad?

I know I can read and send email with the iPad, is it possible to log into
bank accounts so you can track things like credit cards and the like using
the iPad? Firefox has been my main browser, I guess with the iPad that
would have to be Safari. I guess my big concern here is that some of the
websites we use seem to like Firefox but can be problematic when Safari is
used.

I've seen the odd person take pictures with the second generation iPad but
really can't see that being a big feature for me. However, my
understanding is that the Apps you can get for the iPad would permit
something similar to say Elements/CS5 being used to alter pictures if you
wanted. Is that correct? If so, any suggestions as to must have Apps would
be appreciated.

Lastly, there is a difference in price if you go with a 3G version. Is
this worth the extra cost? I am not a huge fan of cell phones given the
cost here in Canada for plans and then their limited use outside the
country due to some high costs. However, if 3G was worth it, I might
reconsider.

I've learned much from tidbits and appreciate the time others might spend
responding to this request.

Ron

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

Rodney
I guess my “executive summary” would be that you might consider a Macbook Air, but an iPad would probably work.

On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Ron Paris wrote:

> Hi,
> My wife and I have just returned from a trip to Europe where we carried
> around a MacBook for a number of reasons. With weight restrictions and the
> like on airlines, I am really thinking there must be a better way to be
> able to stay in touch and do things we presently use the MacBook to do. I
> have been reading a lot about the iPad in the hopes that I could use this
> to accomplish most if not all that we do on the MacBook.

My situation is about the opposite of yours; I’ve lived in Europe for 19 years, and since I retired I return to the US at least once a year for Christmas, and more often if there is a marriage, funeral, whatever.  Last year, I just used my iPhone and iPhone, and scarcely missed my Macbook Pro.  I won’t even consider bringing my Macbook Pro this year.

I’d like to get a Macbook Air, but I have low vision, and can’t get close enough to one to use it properly.  An iPad isn’t a problem, I just hold it at a comfortable viewing distance.  I can’t wait to replace my first generation iPad with an iPad 2 (or later) because of the reduced weight.  A friend of mine has a 2nd generation iPad, and I fell in love with it the first time I saw it.

> Photography is a serious hobby for me. I use the MacBook to download my
> pictures, I then do the first cull of the pictures there. Is this
> something I could do on the iPad as well? I use both Compact Flash and SD
> cards when I travel.

You can probably get your pictures into the iPad using the iPad camera connection kit:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC531ZM/A

There are quite a few apps for manipulating them.  Once the iCloud is launched later this fall, syncing them won’t (in theory) be a problem.  You won’t need Time Machine for that.

> I know I can read and send email with the iPad, is it possible to log into
> bank accounts so you can track things like credit cards and the like using
> the iPad? Firefox has been my main browser, I guess with the iPad that
> would have to be Safari. I guess my big concern here is that some of the
> websites we use seem to like Firefox but can be problematic when Safari is
> used.

You will have a problem with any site that uses Flash.  If you’re concerned about your particular bank’s site, then it might be a good idea to contact the bank.  You could, of course, test it by using the iPad of someone you trust to access your bank.  I’ve not looked into wiping cookies, etc, from an iPad, so I’m not sure I’d try this from just any iPad...

> Lastly, there is a difference in price if you go with a 3G version. Is
> this worth the extra cost? I am not a huge fan of cell phones given the
> cost here in Canada for plans and then their limited use outside the
> country due to some high costs. However, if 3G was worth it, I might
> reconsider.

I guess that “worth it”, like beauty truth and contact lenses, is in the eye of the beholder.  3G is expensive, especially internationally.  Only you can decide if the expense is worth it.  A friend of mine bought a new iPhone last year, then happily headed for the States for a couple of weeks.  He got his email, and did all the other things he normally did while at home.  When he got his phone bill it was for a couple of times the original cost of the phone.  He is Scottish.  It was definitely not worth it for him!

I’ve never looked into the possibility of picking up a pre-paid SIM card for data.  When I’m outside of France, my iPhone is normally in “Airplane mode” with Wi-Fi enabled except for the rare moments when I really do need to make a call.  I have usually had decent luck finding hot spots, and most have had enough bandwidth to let me use Skype.  My 1st generation iPad is Wi-Fi only, and my next one will be also.  Of course, when I’m in the US I usually stay with family and friends, and over the years most of them have gotten Wi-Fi.

Rodney



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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

Neil Laubenthal
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Ron . . .the iPad will do some of what you need but not all.

On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Ron Paris wrote:

> then do the first cull of the pictures there.

This is easy; there are several apps available for sorting and doing some minor editing.  Apple's Camera Connection Kit will accept both CF (via a USB adapter) and SD cards.

>
> Is it easy to back up an iPad?

The iPad backs up to your Mac when you connect it; there is currently no way to back it up independently. However, with the soon (Fall is the announced period) introduction of iOS 5 and iCloud . . .I think it's a reasonably safe bet that there will be some way to backup to the cloud if you have enough bandwidth to do it. As of now though; I know of no way to get photos en masse off of the iPad to either a USB drive or stick or whatever. You can individually upload them with DropBox or something but no mass backup is currently possible.

>
> main browser . . .Safari.
>  

I've had no issue doing banking, email or whatever with Safari on the iPad. As to other apps I have a few but don't use them all that much so I'll let others offer opinions (and I'll learn what works best as well).

> Lastly, there is a difference in price if you go with a 3G version. Is
> this worth the extra cost?

I personally think (assuming you have only one iPad) that getting the 3G is worth the extra price. The 3G connectivity is month to month with no contract required so you can turn it on whenever you need it. Additionally; the 3G model is the only one that has GPS in it. The WiFi only model can kinda/sorta find out where you are but it uses wireless network triangulation (i.e., if you're on a WiFi with SSID XXXX you must be within 150 feet or so of the McDonalds in downtown Paris). The 3G model has true GPS and uses it for geolocation (albeit it is assisted GPS which means that it gets an initial guess based on nearby cell towers whether you have the 3G account activated or not; this initial position lets GPS get a fix faster. I could bore you with all the relevant details about ephemeris data and GPS messages and such but won't). You can put any of several decent GPS programs on your iPad . . .some free/cheap ones get a position from GPS and download maps via 3G or WiFi while!
  others have the entire map on the iPad just like a Garmin or whatever dedicated GPS does.

What I do is dump the photos off of my memory cards to the iPad for initial sorting and emailing/web posting of selected shots. However, I don't erase the memory cards so I keep 2 copies of each photo (card and iPad) . . .and just switch to another memory card (actually a pair of SDs in my Nikon D7000) and keep shooting.

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On 24 Sep 2011, at 06:42 , Ron Paris wrote:
> Photography is a serious hobby for me. I use the MacBook to download my
> pictures, I then do the first cull of the pictures there. Is this
> something I could do on the iPad as well? I use both Compact Flash and SD
> cards when I travel.

You could do this with an iPad and a camera connection kit.

> I back these pictures up to a small portable drive I carry using
> TimeMachine. Is it easy to back up an iPad?

if you have access to WiFi then the new iCloud service will allow you to easily backup up to 10,000 recent photos in your ‘photostream’ these photos will automatically be pushed to your other devices.

> I know I can read and send email with the iPad, is it possible to log into
> bank accounts so you can track things like credit cards and the like using
> the iPad?

Somewhat depends on your bank. Some banks will only serve you a mobile version of their pages and will not give you full access. If your bank is not stupid, then yes you should be fine.

> Firefox has been my main browser, I guess with the iPad that
> would have to be Safari. I guess my big concern here is that some of the
> websites we use seem to like Firefox but can be problematic when Safari is
> used.

Like?

> I've seen the odd person take pictures with the second generation iPad but
> really can't see that being a big feature for me.

The camera on the iPad is good enough to take a snap shot. Not for quality photos.

> However, my understanding is that the Apps you can get for the iPad would permit
> something similar to say Elements/CS5 being used to alter pictures if you
> wanted. Is that correct? If so, any suggestions as to must have Apps would
> be appreciated.

There are a LOT of photo editing apps. Dozens. perhaps hundreds.

> Lastly, there is a difference in price if you go with a 3G version. Is
> this worth the extra cost? I am not a huge fan of cell phones given the
> cost here in Canada for plans and then their limited use outside the
> country due to some high costs. However, if 3G was worth it, I might
> reconsider.

I’ve bought three iPads and didn’t get the 3G on any of them. But that’s me.

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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 > Will an iPad Work for Me?

Try reading one or more of the Take Control books before buying. I'm  
reading "Working With" right now and it is very good.

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

Marc Zeedar
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Ron Paris on 9/24/11 at 5:42 AM wrote something to the effect of:

>I have been reading a lot about the iPad in the hopes that I could use
>this to accomplish most if not all that we do on the MacBook.

I went on a trip in the spring with only an iPad (and iPhone)
and I was delighted by the experience. Nothing I couldn't do
that I needed to do (but note I wasn't doing a lot of
work-related stuff).

I took along an Apple Bluetooth keyboard (very light and tiny)
and so I could do writing and it was awesome. I went to a
conference and took notes all day, sleeping the iPad between
typing bouts. After six hours, I had only used 25% of my iPad
battery. (Note that my favorite feature of the external keyboard
is that when the iPad is asleep, you can just start typing on
the external keyboard and the iPad instantly wakes up and types
what you wrote. It bypasses the unlock screen and is just is
ready to go.)

An important feature of iPad is that (at least in the U.S.) you
don't have to remove it from your bag to go through security.
This made my trips through the security line much faster and
almost stress-free. (I really *hate* being forced to send my
laptop through by itself, watching it go away down that rolling
track while I'm tied up going through the metal detector. More
laptops are stolen at airports than anywhere else, I hear, and
I'm not surprised.)


>I back these pictures up to a small portable drive I carry using
>TimeMachine. Is it easy to back up an iPad?

iCloud is coming, but for now you can use Dropbox (free up to
2GB). There's an app that lets you import photos from your iPad
or you can use third party apps (like GoodReader) that let you
manipulate your Dropbox as well.


>I know I can read and send email with the iPad, is it possible to log into
>bank accounts so you can track things like credit cards and the like using
>the iPad?

Most bigger banks have their own iOS apps for doing this. If
not, you can use Safari. I've never seen an issue except that
some limit you to their "mobile" site and don't allow you to do
everything you can do on a desktop. (No idea why; stupidity, presumably.)


>I've seen the odd person take pictures with the second generation iPad but
>really can't see that being a big feature for me.

I wouldn't use it for stills, but the video recording is pretty
useful. I had a friend visit me recently on his motorcycle
travel across the US and he had recorded hundreds of videos of
his journey with his iPad. Quality was fine for vacation-type
videos and everywhere he went people seemed to love getting
filmed on the iPad (I think because with the big screen, they
could see it, and thus didn't mind being filmed).


>However, my understanding is that the Apps you can get for the iPad
>would permit something similar to say Elements/CS5 being used to alter
>pictures if you wanted.

Nothing close to Photoshop, but you'll find plenty of apps that
will let you crop, rotate, adjust, add borders and filters,
resize, etc. There are painting type apps that will let you use
layers and manipulate the actual pixels if you want, but it's
still not Photoshop.


>Lastly, there is a difference in price if you go with a 3G version. Is
>this worth the extra cost?

Only you can judge this. It's only about $100 more to get the 3G
and you don't have to activate it (here in the U.S. it's
month-to-month, which is nice). You also get real GPS hardware
(Wifi iPads approximate your location via area Wifi networks).

I have Wifi-only iPad and have only found a handful of times
when I wanted Internet and didn't have it. For those times I
wish I could tether my iPhone and use its data connection, but
ATT charges an obscene monthly amount to do that (it would
double my cell phone bill).

The bottom line: with iPads being so popular and having a very
high resale value, you could just buy one and try it for a month
or two. If it didn't work for you, just sell it. You might lose
$100 on the sale (maybe less) but just consider that a
rental/trial fee. You could wait until iOS 5 and iCloud is out
(expected in early October, so not a long wait) as both of those
add important features to iPad.

-- Marc

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

John Burt-3
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On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:35 AM, John Burt wrote:

>> Will an iPad Work for Me?
>
> Try reading one or more of the Take Control books before buying. I'm
> reading "Working With" right now and it is very good.

To clarify, I do not own an iPad.

I just finished the book. It convinced me to get one and I learned  
way more than I expected.

I will buy the 3G for the Map app. We traveled all over the UK using  
the iPhone map app.

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ron Paris <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
> My wife and I have just returned from a trip to Europe where we carried
> around a MacBook for a number of reasons. [,,,]. I
> have been reading a lot about the iPad in the hopes that I could use this
> to accomplish most if not all that we do on the MacBook.

I am a developer and I do a lot of consulting work for companies. I've
gotten tired of dragging around my MacBook and just take an iPad
around with me. The biggest advantage of an iPad is that I don't have
to take it out of my bag when I go through security. I have an Apple
wireless keyboard and a Belkin Flipjack as a stand. All together, they
weigh less than a Macbook Air and take up less room.'

I can't do programming on it. However, I can usually get on a network
Unix server and do some work that way. I use my iPad to take notes, do
presentations with Keynote, write proposals in Pages, and do some
financial stuff with Numbers. These are not as full featured as there
Mac counterparts, and they are far from the professional packages of
Microsoft Office, but they do the job. You can email the document as a
PDF or as a Microsoft Office document.

I have come to the conclusion that the iPad isn't a PC replacement (at
least not yet), but it's far from the "consumption only" machine that
Apple Panboys (them that hates Apple and pan their products) say it
is. Yet, you can websurf while  you're on the john as they claim (and
they shouldn't be knocking it before they try it), but I find it a
very capable machine for traveling.

> Photography is a serious hobby for me.

You can buy the Apple SD Card attachment
<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC531ZM/A> and download pictures
from a camera to your iPad that way. That will mean the pictures are
automatically on your Mac when you get home. There are lots of picture
editing programs for the iPad. None are very sophisticated (no Adobe
Photoshop for the iPad), but they range from simple to fairly
sophisticated in features. Take a look at PhotoForge2
<http://itunes.apple.com/app/photoforge2/id435789422?affId=1860684&mt=8&u1=web#>

The best way to backup your photos (or anything else) on an iPad is to
use Dropbox <http://dropbox.com>. Dropbox is an Internet service that
backs up you files. Your given 2Gb for free, but you can increase that
to 50Gb for $10/month or $100/year. All you need in the Dropbox iPad
app. If you have other computers sync'd to the same Dropbox account,
you can automatically have anything you put into Dropbox from your
iPad to your other computers. As a bonus, there's a special "Photos"
folder in your Dropbox account. If you put a folder in that Photos
folder, and then put your photos in there, you can create a
web-accessible slideshow. Here's one of my Highline Pictures:
<https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/433257/1/Hiline%20Photos?h=5a1e4a>.
Note that you can also put pictures elsewhere in Dropbox if you don't
want them accesible to everyone via the web.

> I know I can read and send email with the iPad, is it possible to log into
> bank accounts so you can track things like credit cards and the like using
> the iPad?

It can be a bit problematic. I've had a bit better luck with the
iPad's Safari than the one on my Mac. The great news is that most of
the larger banks have native iPhone and iPad apps. And, you can sign
up with a service like Mint for free which allow you to track all of
your accounts in one place.

> I've seen the odd person take pictures with the second generation iPad but
> really can't see that being a big feature for me.

I wouldn't bother taking pictures with an iPad. The quality of the
camera is not even as good as the one on the iPhone. If you're serious
about pictures, use a real camera. However, as I mentioned above, you
can download your pictures to the iPad via the Apple SD Card
attachment and use a program like PhotoForge2. By the way, like most
iPad apps, PhotoForge2 is cheap ($2.00). At that price, you can try
it, and if you don't like it, try another one. Many have "lite"
versions that are free, so you can try it before you buy it. Most
people I know have three or four they use depending upon the situation
and what they want to do with the picture.


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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

George Lottermoser

On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:31 PM, David Weintraub wrote:

>  If you're serious
> about pictures, use a real camera. However, as I mentioned above, you
> can download your pictures to the iPad via the Apple SD Card
> attachment and use a program like PhotoForge2. By the way, like most
> iPad apps, PhotoForge2 is cheap ($2.00). At that price, you can try
> it, and if you don't like it, try another one. Many have "lite"
> versions that are free, so you can try it before you buy it. Most
> people I know have three or four they use depending upon the situation
> and what they want to do with the picture.

As a serious photographer who photographs 100% in RAW;
I have yet to find a program for my first generation iPad which will handle the RAW files.
If you shoot RAW and want to process those files on the road
you won't (yet) do that with an iPad.

Still - the iPad has become my travel companion 90% of the time;
unless a client needs full computing power in the field.

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

Ray Kloss

On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:50 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>
> As a serious photographer who photographs 100% in RAW;
> I have yet to find a program for my first generation iPad which will handle the RAW files.
> If you shoot RAW and want to process those files on the road
> you won't (yet) do that with an iPad.
>
> Still - the iPad has become my travel companion 90% of the time;
> unless a client needs full computing power in the field.

But if are just wanting a basic preview, most cameras will take a RAW + jpg photo, only losing a little space on the photo card.

You really wont be able to edit RAW files unless a iPad program carries interpretations of all the different RAW formats for each camera, or translates them to a common format. Not likely now, but as the iPad gets more complex and powerful (an gets better as a camera), I don't doubt it will be there in the future.
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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

Elinore Evans
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On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:50 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:

>
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:31 PM, David Weintraub wrote:
>
>> If you're serious
>> about pictures, use a real camera. However, as I mentioned above, you
>> can download your pictures to the iPad via the Apple SD Card
>> attachment and use a program like PhotoForge2. By the way, like most
>> iPad apps, PhotoForge2 is cheap ($2.00). At that price, you can try
>> it, and if you don't like it, try another one. Many have "lite"
>> versions that are free, so you can try it before you buy it. Most
>> people I know have three or four they use depending upon the situation
>> and what they want to do with the picture.
>
> As a serious photographer who photographs 100% in RAW;
> I have yet to find a program for my first generation iPad which will handle the RAW files.
> If you shoot RAW and want to process those files on the road
> you won't (yet) do that with an iPad.
>
> Still - the iPad has become my travel companion 90% of the time;
> unless a client needs full computing power in the field.
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> George Lottermoser
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Yes, you can read RAW files on the iPad 2:  http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-2-forum/27406-ipad-2-reads-raw-files.html

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Elinore Evans wrote:

> Yes, you can read RAW files on the iPad 2:  http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-2-forum/27406-ipad-2-reads-raw-files.html

Yes - you can see a low res version of the image.
Though that will not give you much viable information about the serious quality of the image.
It's showing you a very tiny .jpg.

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:21 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:

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> On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Elinore Evans wrote:
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>> Yes, you can read RAW files on the iPad 2:  http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-2-forum/27406-ipad-2-reads-raw-files.html
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> Yes - you can see a low res version of the image.
> Though that will not give you much viable information about the serious quality of the image.
> It's showing you a very tiny .jpg.
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> Here is what I discovered:  piRAWnha exports the full-size, high-resolution raw image for iPad 2 and for images less than 15 megapixels with iPad 1. Here is a link to the program:  http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pirawnha/id409747795?mt=8

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ron Paris <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Photography is a serious hobby for me. I use the MacBook to download my
> pictures, I then do the first cull of the pictures there. Is this
> something I could do on the iPad as well? I use both Compact Flash and SD
> cards when I travel.

One thing that no one has mentioned is that iPads don't have a vast
amount of storage space. If you're taking a lot of photos, or making
very large files (RAW or very high megapixel JPEG), you may not be
able to store all the photos you want on the iPad. At the least, you'd
want the 64 GB iPad model.

The iPad Camera Connection Kit comes with an SD Card Reader as well as
a USB-based Camera Connector, so you can read SD cards and connect
directly to cameras that use Compact Flash.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC531ZM/A

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ron Paris <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
> My wife and I have just returned from a trip to Europe where we carried
> around a MacBook for a number of reasons. With weight restrictions and the
> like on airlines, I am really thinking there must be a better way to be
> able to stay in touch and do things we presently use the MacBook to do. I
> have been reading a lot about the iPad in the hopes that I could use this
> to accomplish most if not all that we do on the MacBook.
>
> Photography is a serious hobby for me. I use the MacBook to download my
> pictures, I then do the first cull of the pictures there. Is this
> something I could do on the iPad as well? I use both Compact Flash and SD
> cards when I travel.
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> I back these pictures up to a small portable drive I carry using
> TimeMachine. Is it easy to back up an iPad?
>
> I know I can read and send email with the iPad, is it possible to log into
> bank accounts so you can track things like credit cards and the like using
> the iPad? Firefox has been my main browser, I guess with the iPad that
> would have to be Safari. I guess my big concern here is that some of the
> websites we use seem to like Firefox but can be problematic when Safari is
> used.
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> I've seen the odd person take pictures with the second generation iPad but
> really can't see that being a big feature for me. However, my
> understanding is that the Apps you can get for the iPad would permit
> something similar to say Elements/CS5 being used to alter pictures if you
> wanted. Is that correct? If so, any suggestions as to must have Apps would
> be appreciated.
>
> Lastly, there is a difference in price if you go with a 3G version. Is
> this worth the extra cost? I am not a huge fan of cell phones given the
> cost here in Canada for plans and then their limited use outside the
> country due to some high costs. However, if 3G was worth it, I might
> reconsider.
>
> I've learned much from tidbits and appreciate the time others might spend
> responding to this request.

Most people on TidBITS Talk naturally tend to use iOS products
(iPad/iPhone), but I advise you to compare good Android tablets with
the iPad 2 before buying. I've opted for a Galaxy T
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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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[Sorry for my previous message which was sent incomplete... Although I
was typing on the Mac!]

Most people on TidBITS Talk naturally tend to use iOS products
(iPad/iPhone), but I advise you to compare good Android tablets with
the iPad 2 before buying. I've opted for a Galaxy Tab 10.1, but some
other tablets have similar features. Some benefits I see:
- no need to buy a camera adapter to unload your photos, since a real
full featured USB adapter comes for free.
- Easy, direct file system access if you need it (no jailbreaking).
Combined with the point above, mass backing up your photos on your USB
hard drive would be a snap.
- no need to buy the 3G version to get a GPS, it comes with the Wi-Fi version.
- not stuck with only Safari. A few quality browsers exist, including
Firefox and Chrome, so it's likely at least one will render correctly
any site.
- Flash support. Yes, sometimes it's useful, but it can be easily
desactivated when you don't need it.
- slightly larger display resolution than the iPad, and 16/9 format
which is better suited to watching videos and most photos.
- not required to use the AppStore, which has its detractors. I mainly
use Google's equivalent, but there are alternative ways to install
software, and that's freedom.
- No need to use iTunes like software for everything.
- Free Angry Birds! And free Microsoft Office compatible editor
(Polaris) bundled.

Despite what Apple would like us to believe, there are good
alternatives to the iPad 2, as there are to the iPhone.

-Thomas
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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On Sep 25, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Thomas Perrier wrote:

> Despite what Apple would like us to believe, there are good
> alternatives to the iPad 2, as there are to the iPhone.

I think that “good”, like beauty truth and contact lenses, is in the eye of the beholder.  I do believe that before anyone buys a tablet they should first decide how they’ll use it and then buy the tablet that meets their needs.  For some people, the answer will be an Android or Windows tablet.  That’s fine, and I’d never try to change their minds.

For me personally, however, my beliefs aren’t based on what Apple would like.  If there is ever an Android (or whatever) iPad competitor I’d certainly consider it the next time I upgrade.  However, right now I don’t think that there is one.  For the things I bought a tablet for, your list of Android advantages would be a great cure for insomnia.  But again, I don’t claim to be “right”, and I don’t even claim to be “typical”.



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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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Thomas Perrier on 9/25/11 at 10:29 AM wrote something to the
effect of:

>Most people on TidBITS Talk naturally tend to use iOS products
>(iPad/iPhone), but I advise you to compare good Android tablets with
>the iPad 2 before buying.
>
>Some benefits I see:
>- no need to buy a camera adapter to unload your photos, since a real
>full featured USB adapter comes for free.

So I save $29? Big whoop.


>- Easy, direct file system access if you need it (no jailbreaking).
>Combined with the point above, mass backing up your photos on your USB
>hard drive would be a snap.

I wouldn't *mind* this, but I so rarely actually connect my iPad
to a computer I would probably never use this feature. I vastly
prefer wireless syncing.


>- no need to buy the 3G version to get a GPS, it comes with the Wi-Fi version.

That's a plus, but without 3G I don't know what good the GPS
does. Can it map guide me outside of a Wifi zone?


>- not stuck with only Safari. A few quality browsers exist, including
>Firefox and Chrome, so it's likely at least one will render correctly
>any site.

Personally, I've never (or rarely) seen a site that doesn't work
in Safari. Most mobile browsers are Webkit-based anyway, so you
wouldn't get much difference. (Not sure about Firefox on
Android. Did they port their Mozilla engine?)


>- Flash support. Yes, sometimes it's useful, but it can be easily
>desactivated when you don't need it.

I'd pay extra to *not* have it.

Mostly just to encourage Flash to die.


>- slightly larger display resolution than the iPad, and 16/9 format
>which is better suited to watching videos and most photos.

Absurd. I keep my iPad locked into portrait mode 99% of the
time. Have you seen how 16/9 format looks in portrait? Horrible.
Movies look great on iPad in widescreen. You're holding the
thing a few inches from your face anyway, so a slightly smaller
image to accommodate the letterboxing is irrelevant.

I look at it this way: what do I do *most* with a tab? Read (web
pages, emails, articles, books, etc.). For the vast majority of
what I do, portrait orientation is far more practical.
Widescreen is handy of occasion, but I promise you Apple
researched the crap out of this for years before iPad came out
and they decided long ago that 16/9 wasn't a good size for very
good reasons.

Again, I'd pay extra to *not* have a widescreen tablet.


>- not required to use the AppStore, which has its detractors. I mainly
>use Google's equivalent, but there are alternative ways to install
>software, and that's freedom.

Overrated. What good does this "freedom" get you when there are
only a few hundred tablet apps for Android? (Versus 100,000+ for iPad!)

And for that freedom I trade my soul to Google in form of
privacy-invading ads and unrated, unregulated apps that are
everything from scams to trojan horses and malware?

A handful of hackers prefer Androids hackability but normal
people *prefer* Apple's App Store.


>- No need to use iTunes like software for everything.

Huh? I hardly ever use iTunes and once iCloud is out I probably
will never bother to hook my iPad up to my Mac again.


>- Free Angry Birds! And free Microsoft Office compatible editor
>(Polaris) bundled.

Oh boy. So I should spend $500 on a crappy tablet with no apps
just so I save $5 on a game and some Office software? I bought
an Office editor for my iPad for $20. And there are dozens to
choose from.


>Despite what Apple would like us to believe, there are good
>alternatives to the iPad 2, as there are to the iPhone.

If Android tablets (and phones) were significantly cheaper than
Apple's products, you might have a point. But they cost the same
and you get less! How is that a good alternative?

The only reason Android phones have been successful is because
of the carriers. The ones who don't have iPhone need something
to sell and people settle because they don't want to switch
carriers. That's not a factor with tablets, which is why
non-iPads aren't selling at all.

There is no tablet market. There's only an iPad market.

-- Marc

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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

Neil Laubenthal
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As of today there aren't many good alternatives (at least not any with any market share. Apple is the only complete, polished solution ad of today. Others are still wannabe's but are improving.

TTFN:

 neil


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Re: Will an iPad Work for Me?

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On 25 Sep 2011, at 09:28 , Adam Engst wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Ron Paris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Photography is a serious hobby for me. I use the MacBook to download my
>> pictures, I then do the first cull of the pictures there. Is this
>> something I could do on the iPad as well? I use both Compact Flash and SD
>> cards when I travel.
>
> One thing that no one has mentioned is that iPads don't have a vast
> amount of storage space. If you're taking a lot of photos, or making
> very large files (RAW or very high megapixel JPEG), you may not be
> able to store all the photos you want on the iPad. At the least, you'd
> want the 64 GB iPad model.

But once iCloud goes live you can load the photos on your iPad, wait for them to sync to your photo stream (meaning they are in iCloud and on your desktop) and THEN DELETE THEM of the iPad.

So, you have space for 10,000 photos on the iPad for 0K of storage space as long as you can get them synced to iCloud.

Right?

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