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dianed143@comcast.net
Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

Diane

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Re: Sierra

John Turner-2

Hi Diane!


Here is an Apple approved site where you can get a complete installer for Sierra 12.6. To use this installer you do not need to be online! That as you can imagine can be a real plus. I created a thumb drive with the installer just incase of an emergency.


https://www.digitalriser.com/direct-download-macos-sierra-10-12-6-offline-installer.html


JT aka. "The Bear"  


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Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

Diane

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Re: Sierra

David Rostenne
Am I missing something? The installer linked form the digitalriser site is only an update…

Diane, if you get it now from the regular channels, ie. app store, you can install it later, or re-download it in the future. But you need to do that before it vanishes, as far as I understand it.

Cheers,

Dave

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> Hi Diane!
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> Here is an Apple approved site where you can get a complete installer for Sierra 12.6. To use this installer you do not need to be online! That as you can imagine can be a real plus. I created a thumb drive with the installer just incase of an emergency.
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> https://www.digitalriser.com/direct-download-macos-sierra-10-12-6-offline-installer.html
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>> Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?
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>> Diane
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Re: Sierra

Howard E. Rosenman
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I find it hard to imagine that Apple has allowed an external site to provide downloads of the OS, or that any of the publishers of the other software on that site approved either.

. How do you know it is "Apple approved"?
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On Sep 12, 2017, at 11:39 AM, John Turner <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hi Diane!

Here is an Apple approved site where you can get a complete installer for Sierra 12.6. To use this installer you do not need to be online! That as you can imagine can be a real plus. I created a thumb drive with the installer just incase of an emergency.


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Re: Sierra

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On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:39 AM, John Turner wrote:
> Here is an Apple approved site where you can get a complete installer for Sierra 12.6. To use this installer you do not need to be online! That as you can imagine can be a real plus. I created a thumb drive with the installer just incase of an emergency.

Those aren't full installers and are exactly the same as the ones you can get from Apple"

<https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1931>
<https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1930>

You can always download the full installer from the Mac App Store until Sep 25 when High Sierra is released. When the splash screen comes up just quit the installer and it will be in your Applications folder. Then use Boot Buddy to create a bootable USB Thumb Drive from it
<https://sqwarq.com/boot-buddy/>


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Re: Sierra

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Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

As long as you’ve downloaded it once in your App Store app on the Mac, you can always get it again later. So be sure to do that before September 25th, even if you choose not to install Sierra after downloading.

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Re: Sierra

Al Varnell
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Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

As long as you’ve downloaded it once in your App Store app on the Mac, you can always get it again later.

I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more, the way previous OS X versions did. We'll just have to wait and see what Apple chooses to do about that after the 25th.

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Re: Sierra

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> I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more,

On my purchased page it still shows Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, El Capitan, and Sierra.


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Re: Sierra

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On Sep 12, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Al Varnell <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:34 PM, Adam Engst wrote:
Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

As long as you’ve downloaded it once in your App Store app on the Mac, you can always get it again later.

I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more, the way previous OS X versions did. We'll just have to wait and see what Apple chooses to do about that after the 25th.


The same thing happened to me, but I found that when you search for OS X Sierra in the search box, it shows up and lets you download it.




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Re: Sierra

Al Varnell
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:03 PM, Fritz Mills wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Al Varnell wrote:
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:34 PM, Adam Engst wrote:
Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

As long as you’ve downloaded it once in your App Store app on the Mac, you can always get it again later.

I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more, the way previous OS X versions did. We'll just have to wait and see what Apple chooses to do about that after the 25th.


The same thing happened to me, but I found that when you search for OS X Sierra in the search box, it shows up and lets you download it.

Yes, that's exactly the way I have been getting it. Just not sure that will work after the 25th.

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Re: Sierra

John Turner-2

I just downloaded the installer from the App Store. If you get it there it will download into the Applications folder and will ask you to continue the installation. But if you tell it to quit you will have the Sierra 12.6 Installer to put on your Flash Drive as on of our esteemed members suggested.


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From: Al Varnell [hidden email]
Reply: TidBITS Talk [hidden email]
Date: September 12, 2017 at 5:08:58 PM
To: TidBITS Talk [hidden email]
Subject:  Re: Sierra

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:03 PM, Fritz Mills wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Al Varnell wrote:
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:34 PM, Adam Engst wrote:
Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

As long as you’ve downloaded it once in your App Store app on the Mac, you can always get it again later.

I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more, the way previous OS X versions did. We'll just have to wait and see what Apple chooses to do about that after the 25th.


The same thing happened to me, but I found that when you search for OS X Sierra in the search box, it shows up and lets you download it.

Yes, that's exactly the way I have been getting it. Just not sure that will work after the 25th.

-Al-



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Re: Sierra

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> On Sep 12, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Al Varnell <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:39 AM, John Turner wrote:
>> Here is an Apple approved site where you can get a complete installer for Sierra 12.6. To use this installer you do not need to be online! That as you can imagine can be a real plus. I created a thumb drive with the installer just incase of an emergency.
>
> Those aren't full installers and are exactly the same as the ones you can get from Apple"
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> <https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1931>
> <https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1930>
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> You can always download the full installer from the Mac App Store until Sep 25 when High Sierra is released. When the splash screen comes up just quit the installer and it will be in your Applications folder. Then use Boot Buddy to create a bootable USB Thumb Drive from it
> <https://sqwarq.com/boot-buddy/>

Thanks everyone! I missed the boat on Mavericks for my 2015 MBP and don’t want to mess this up. I didn’t expect so many answers! :)

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Re: Sierra

Curtis Wilcox
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On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Al Varnell <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:03 PM, Fritz Mills wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Al Varnell wrote:
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:34 PM, Adam Engst wrote:
Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

As long as you’ve downloaded it once in your App Store app on the Mac, you can always get it again later.

I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more, the way previous OS X versions did. We'll just have to wait and see what Apple chooses to do about that after the 25th.


The same thing happened to me, but I found that when you search for OS X Sierra in the search box, it shows up and lets you download it.

Yes, that's exactly the way I have been getting it. Just not sure that will work after the 25th.


Every version I've downloaded using this Apple ID is listed on the Purchased tab except Sierra, which is still findable/downloadable in the Store. I expect once High Sierra is released, Sierra will not be listed in the Store but will be listed in my Purchased list, like the others (I thought I'd already seen Sierra in my Purchased list at some point but it might have been on another computer that was running an earlier version).

One way or another, Apple makes every version you've downloaded available for re-download. There's no reason to expect that to change with the next release.




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Re: Sierra

Al Varnell
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:18 PM, Curtis Wilcox wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Al Varnell wrote:
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:03 PM, Fritz Mills wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Al Varnell wrote:
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:34 PM, Adam Engst wrote:
Sierra will be available for download for a little while longer correct?

As long as you’ve downloaded it once in your App Store app on the Mac, you can always get it again later.

I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more, the way previous OS X versions did. We'll just have to wait and see what Apple chooses to do about that after the 25th.


The same thing happened to me, but I found that when you search for OS X Sierra in the search box, it shows up and lets you download it.

Yes, that's exactly the way I have been getting it. Just not sure that will work after the 25th.


Every version I've downloaded using this Apple ID is listed on the Purchased tab except Sierra, which is still findable/downloadable in the Store. I expect once High Sierra is released, Sierra will not be listed in the Store but will be listed in my Purchased list, like the others (I thought I'd already seen Sierra in my Purchased list at some point but it might have been on another computer that was running an earlier version).

One way or another, Apple makes every version you've downloaded available for re-download. There's no reason to expect that to change with the next release.

There are some things about High Sierra that make rolling back to a previous OS problematic. There are some clues in <https://support.apple.com/HT208018>.

Again, we'll know more in a couple of weeks.

-Al-



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Re: Sierra

Richard Rettke
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On 12 Sep 2017, at 16:18, Curtis Wilcox [hidden email] wrote:

Every version I've downloaded using this Apple ID is listed on the Purchased tab except Sierra, which is still findable/downloadable in the Store. I expect once High Sierra is released, Sierra will not be listed in the Store but will be listed in my Purchased list, like the others (I thought I'd already seen Sierra in my Purchased list at some point but it might have been on another computer that was running an earlier version).

That used to be the case for me, but when I just checked, the only one still listed in the purchases tab is Mountain Lion.
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Re: Sierra

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On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Al Varnell <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:18 PM, Curtis Wilcox wrote:

One way or another, Apple makes every version you've downloaded available for re-download. There's no reason to expect that to change with the next release.

There are some things about High Sierra that make rolling back to a previous OS problematic. There are some clues in <https://support.apple.com/HT208018>.

Again, we'll know more in a couple of weeks.


Yes, *installing* a previous OS on an APFS volume isn't going to work without reformatting it to HFS+ but the question wasn't about rolling back, it was about the availability of the installers.




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Re: Sierra

Al Varnell
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:55 PM, Tom Gewecke wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Al Varnell wrote:
I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more,
On my purchased page it still shows Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, El Capitan, and Sierra.

I've probably discussed this with over a hundred users and you are the first to say they have Sierra on their Purchases page.

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Re: Sierra

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I've probably discussed this with over a hundred users and you are the first to say they have Sierra on their Purchases page.

Oddly, I have the macOS Sierra Developer Beta, but not a release version. Downloading it gives me a normal Install macOS Sierra app.

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Re: Sierra

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Al, I just checked my Purchase page in the App Store and it only shows that I have  El Capitan and Yosemite…there is no listing for Sierra at all. Would you like a screenshot for validation?


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From: Al Varnell [hidden email]
Reply: TidBITS Talk [hidden email]
Date: September 12, 2017 at 7:23:17 PM
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Subject:  Re: Sierra

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:55 PM, Tom Gewecke wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Al Varnell wrote:
I'm not so sure of that. Sierra doesn't show up in my MAS Purchases page any more,
On my purchased page it still shows Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, El Capitan, and Sierra.

I've probably discussed this with over a hundred users and you are the first to say they have Sierra on their Purchases page.

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Re: Sierra

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On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 04:02 PM, Curtis Wilcox wrote:
On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Al Varnell <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:18 PM, Curtis Wilcox wrote:
One way or another, Apple makes every version you've downloaded available for re-download. There's no reason to expect that to change with the next release.

There are some things about High Sierra that make rolling back to a previous OS problematic. There are some clues in <https://support.apple.com/HT208018>.

Again, we'll know more in a couple of weeks.

Yes, *installing* a previous OS on an APFS volume isn't going to work without reformatting it to HFS+ but the question wasn't about rolling back, it was about the availability of the installers.

Apple has been increasingly urging users to use macOS Recovery to do reinstalls. I know that isn't good news for those with bandwidth limits, but it's pretty clear that's what they prefer. <https://support.apple.com/HT204904>

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