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Senility of the Podcast app in iOS 11

Paul Schinder
So Apple has removed the ability of the Podcast app to use playlists in iOS 11, which makes it completely unusable to me, since I can’t choose the individual podcasts I want to listen to in the order I want to listen to them.  Is there an alternative that allows you to order podcasts on a computer exactly the way you want and then transfer the podcasts (and only those chosen podcasts) to the iPhone to be played in that order?  I could use the “convert podcast type to music type and listen in Music” kludge, but then I lose the ability to play at 1 1/2 speed.

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Re: Senility of the Podcast app in iOS 11

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On Sep 23, 2017, at 15:08, Paul Schinder <[hidden email]> wrote:

So Apple has removed the ability of the Podcast app to use playlists in iOS 11, which makes it completely unusable to me, since I can’t choose the individual podcasts I want to listen to in the order I want to listen to them. 

I discovered that problem last night. I can add podcast to “Up next” on my iPad, but I can’t view the list or rearrange it. It seems that every release of the app is a giant step backwards. It seems to be a little prettier and a lot less useful every time.

I like being able to listen to, or watch, podcasts on my Mac, iPad, and Apple TV, and I like the ease of getting podcasts from the iTunes Store, but the horrible app is negating these advantages.



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Re: Senility of the Podcast app in iOS 11

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On Sep 23, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Paul Schinder <[hidden email]> wrote:

So Apple has removed the ability of the Podcast app to use playlists in iOS 11, which makes it completely unusable to me, since I can’t choose the individual podcasts I want to listen to in the order I want to listen to them.  Is there an alternative that allows you to order podcasts on a computer exactly the way you want and then transfer the podcasts (and only those chosen podcasts) to the iPhone to be played in that order?  I could use the “convert podcast type to music type and listen in Music” kludge, but then I lose the ability to play at 1 1/2 speed.
 
I don’t listen to podcasts myself, but Overcast is always highly regarded by those who do listen to podcasts

If I’m not mistaken, there is a free and an upgraded “premium” version so you could try it out.

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Re: Senility of the Podcast app in iOS 11

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On 23 Sep 2017, at 07:08, Paul Schinder <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Is there an alternative that allows you to order podcasts on a computer exactly the way you want

Why on the computer?

This is something that all podcast apps I've used in iOS have the ability to do, to varying degrees. I use Overcast myself, which I think is far and away the best podcast app, but Downcast and Pocketcast are also good and also support creating playlists.

I still use Downcast on the very rare occasions I want to watch a video podcast, but that happens maybe a couple of times a year.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/overcast/id888422857?mt=8>
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/downcast/id393858566?mt=8>
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pocket-casts/id414834813?mt=8>

Overcast is free with in app purchases to unlock smart speed and voice boost. The others are $3 or $4

Downcast also has a Mac version, but I've never used it. I would guess it might sync between the Mac and iOS, but I don't know. Overcast has a web-player that will do in a pinch, but it doesn't do play lists or smart speed or voice boost.

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/downcast/id668429425?mt=12>
<https://overcast.fm>


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Re: Senility of the Podcast app in iOS 11

Paul Schinder

> On Sep 23, 2017, at 6:26 PM, @lbutlr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> On 23 Sep 2017, at 07:08, Paul Schinder <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Is there an alternative that allows you to order podcasts on a computer exactly the way you want
>
> Why on the computer?

Just convenience so far as ordering the podcasts.  I find it easier to do on a larger screen with a mouse.  But I do not want the phone app downloading podcasts willy nilly or have to “stream” the podcasts.  I want podcasts I subscribe to downloaded to a device with plenty of storage, and then I’ll pick and choose which to put on the phone and listen to, just as I did for the last n years until I upgraded to iOS 11.  My new iPhone 8 is a downgrade so far as storage is concerned; the iPhone 6 it replaced (a hand me down from my daughter) had 128 Gb while the 8 has 64 Gb, so I don’t want anything on it that’s unnecessary.  (My daughter, of course, wants to replace her 7+ with an X with 256 Gb.)

>
> This is something that all podcast apps I've used in iOS have the ability to do, to varying degrees. I use Overcast myself, which I think is far and away the best podcast app, but Downcast and Pocketcast are also good and also support creating playlists.

I’ll try Overcast.  I used the podcast->music kludge today and it works well enough, so there’s no rush to make the transition.
 

>
> I still use Downcast on the very rare occasions I want to watch a video podcast, but that happens maybe a couple of times a year.
>
> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/overcast/id888422857?mt=8>
> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/downcast/id393858566?mt=8>
> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pocket-casts/id414834813?mt=8>
>
> Overcast is free with in app purchases to unlock smart speed and voice boost. The others are $3 or $4
>
> Downcast also has a Mac version, but I've never used it. I would guess it might sync between the Mac and iOS, but I don't know. Overcast has a web-player that will do in a pinch, but it doesn't do play lists or smart speed or voice boost.
>
> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/downcast/id668429425?mt=12>
> <https://overcast.fm>

Incidentally, I learned a few days ago that links to itunes.apple.com are now dangerous on a Mac when I hit a link on DC Rainmaker’s site.  Since Safari tries to pass them to iTunes, which no longer handles apps, they trade the hot potato back and forth.


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Re: Senility of the Podcast app in iOS 11

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On Sep 23, 2017, at 16:45, Paul Schinder <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Incidentally, I learned a few days ago that links to itunes.apple.com are now dangerous on a Mac when I hit a link on DC Rainmaker’s site.  Since Safari tries to pass them to iTunes, which no longer handles apps, they trade the hot potato back and forth.

They are not dangerous, they simply confuse Safari for a minute and switch to iTunes before switching back to Safari if the link goes to an iOS app. Mac apps launch the Mac App Store.

And, of course, the links work fine on iOS.

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