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My apologies!

"John Turner the Bear😎"
Adam,
 
I was not going to check my TidBits email again but when I opened my mail I found your note in it. I really appreciate your wisdom. Anger and frustration do have a way for confusing me. I must admit that I let the beta problems cloud my judgement and tempermanent!
 
You are right that there is a huge difference between Apple and the Apple Community! I really do not have to respond to anything I don't want to,, and I do not have to post my feelings either. So I won't on the beta matter anymore. Carol told me that I was letting this whole matter to affect all of my doings. To aleviate the problem I have left the beta program and when my new iMac arrives next week I will try to recover my apps and work etc. that are not part of the new OS. I hope that it works. I think that the Migration App will likely solve the problem.
 
I would like to stay with the TidBits group. I must say though I am extreemly embarassed by my actions, though not my opinions. I love my Mac, all of my past Macs too. I would not give up my Mac despite my frutrations. And no matter what I said before, there is NO way that I would trade any Mac for a PC!
 
So, if the group will accept this sometimes grumpy and very opinionated old man, I would love to stay. I will attempt to not address the beta issues ever again! If I have offended anyone in this community I offer my apologies. I am truly sorry.
 
Bear



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Re: My apologies!

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No worries. We’re all in this together.

Apple can make everyone grumpy at times, but that’s true of lots of companies.

The main thing is that we don’t take out that annoyance on others and work together to find solutions.

cheers... -Adam



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Re: My apologies!

Lynne Adema-2

I agree! My PC makes me plenty angry at times.


On 8/8/2017 6:31 PM, Adam Engst wrote:
No worries. We’re all in this together.

Apple can make everyone grumpy at times, but that’s true of lots of companies.

The main thing is that we don’t take out that annoyance on others and work together to find solutions.

cheers... -Adam



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Re: My apologies!

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Glad you are staying :)

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Re: My apologies!

Marilyn Matty
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On Aug 8, 2017, at 7:27 PM, John Turner the Bear😎 <[hidden email]> wrote:


So, if the group will accept this sometimes grumpy and very opinionated old man, I would love to stay. I will attempt to not address the beta issues ever again! If I have offended anyone in this community I offer my apologies. I am truly sorry.
 


This grumpy, opinionated and snarky old lady is glad you'll stay with us. BTW, I'm too chicken livered to even consider a beta, and I think you testers are to be admired.

Marilyn



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Re: My apologies!

Tallitsch, Robert
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John - we all need to vent once in a while. Nothing out of line was said, nor was it said in an inappropriate manner.

No harm, no foul.

Bob

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:27 PM, "John Turner the Bear😎" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Adam,
 
I was not going to check my TidBits email again but when I opened my mail I found your note in it. I really appreciate your wisdom. Anger and frustration do have a way for confusing me. I must admit that I let the beta problems cloud my judgement and tempermanent!
 
You are right that there is a huge difference between Apple and the Apple Community! I really do not have to respond to anything I don't want to,, and I do not have to post my feelings either. So I won't on the beta matter anymore. Carol told me that I was letting this whole matter to affect all of my doings. To aleviate the problem I have left the beta program and when my new iMac arrives next week I will try to recover my apps and work etc. that are not part of the new OS. I hope that it works. I think that the Migration App will likely solve the problem.
 
I would like to stay with the TidBits group. I must say though I am extreemly embarassed by my actions, though not my opinions. I love my Mac, all of my past Macs too. I would not give up my Mac despite my frutrations. And no matter what I said before, there is NO way that I would trade any Mac for a PC!
 
So, if the group will accept this sometimes grumpy and very opinionated old man, I would love to stay. I will attempt to not address the beta issues ever again! If I have offended anyone in this community I offer my apologies. I am truly sorry.
 
Bear



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Re: My apologies!

David Rostenne
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Welcome back John!

I totally empathize with your frustrations.. i’ve had them over the years too.. last week I finally upgraded to Sierra on my main Mac, and promptly had Mail take 10+ seconds to show the contents of an email once I opened it. I was almost pulling my hair out. I found some things that helped online (before asking here!) and my level of frustration has dropped somewhat.

I’ve thought of abandoning the Mac too. It only takes a few minutes of fiddling with "those other operating systems"™ (in a virtual machine) to remind me why i’m going to put up with things for many many more years ;-)

Working as an mac tech support / training guy, and having helped found and run our local Mac User group, ByMUG.ca, for the last decade.. i’ve seen the frustrations from many people in person. I highly recommend you visit your local MUG and talk to the folks in person. It is a great way to meet new people, vent, and get help.

Cheers,

Dave

> On 8-August-2017, at 7:27 PM, John Turner the Bear😎 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Adam,
>  
> I was not going to check my TidBits email again but when I opened my mail I found your note in it. I really appreciate your wisdom. Anger and frustration do have a way for confusing me. I must admit that I let the beta problems cloud my judgement and tempermanent!
>  
> You are right that there is a huge difference between Apple and the Apple Community! I really do not have to respond to anything I don't want to,, and I do not have to post my feelings either. So I won't on the beta matter anymore. Carol told me that I was letting this whole matter to affect all of my doings. To aleviate the problem I have left the beta program and when my new iMac arrives next week I will try to recover my apps and work etc. that are not part of the new OS. I hope that it works. I think that the Migration App will likely solve the problem.
>  
> I would like to stay with the TidBits group. I must say though I am extreemly embarassed by my actions, though not my opinions. I love my Mac, all of my past Macs too. I would not give up my Mac despite my frutrations. And no matter what I said before, there is NO way that I would trade any Mac for a PC!
>  
> So, if the group will accept this sometimes grumpy and very opinionated old man, I would love to stay. I will attempt to not address the beta issues ever again! If I have offended anyone in this community I offer my apologies. I am truly sorry.
>  
> Bear
>
>
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Re: My apologies!

Alexander Forbes

On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:40 AM, David Rostenne <[hidden email]> wrote:

I totally empathize with your frustrations.. i’ve had them over the years too.. last week I finally upgraded to Sierra on my main Mac, and promptly had Mail take 10+ seconds to show the contents of an email once I opened it. I was almost pulling my hair out. I found some things that helped online (before asking here!) and my level of frustration has dropped somewhat.

I’ve thought of abandoning the Mac too. It only takes a few minutes of fiddling with "those other operating systems"™ (in a virtual machine) to remind me why i’m going to put up with things for many many more years ;-)

I second the sentiment. I always hated the old trope “it is what it is,” but sometimes, it really is, and it’s better than Windows. When I worked in Software QA, we learned to live with the bugs Programming would never fix, and we just used workarounds to test our products. We were astounded to learn our clients thought “that’s the way it’s SUPPOSED to work” and just used a different feature to complete the task. They were guardedly pleased with a new design release we in QA thought was just awful. Learning to live with that which we can’t change has never been easy for me either, but sometimes the facts dictate we do it anyway.

Cheers,

Alex




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