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Qazwart
The new maps application is certainly pretty, but I do miss the street view, and the information is a bit limited. However, I suspect with 400,000+ iOS 6 users running hither and thither, that the map information will be much better over time.

Still, it would be nice if Apple funneled some of that 100 billion dollar stockpile of dollars into street views. Microsoft has them, so I'm sure they could probably work out a deal with Microsoft just to get started. In fact, I'd love to see street view "done right" with the cars and people removed from the front of stores and houses. I like to use street view just to see what my location looks like, and to confirm the location. Sometimes, Google map directions can be off by a mile or so. I like to be able to view the actual address on the building just to confirm it's the right location. That's difficult if there's a big truck sitting right in front of the building.

The lack of mass transit directions is rather interesting. Using third party apps might take care of it, but the apps I have aren't the ones used. I use Hotstop and iTrans, but neither of those were used by Maps. Instead, I had to download a few others.

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Re: Maps in iOS6

Bruce Sherman

On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:15 PM, David Weintraub wrote:

> The new maps application is certainly pretty, but I do miss the street view, and the information is a bit limited. However, I suspect with 400,000+ iOS 6 users running hither and thither, that the map information will be much better over time.
>
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> The lack of mass transit directions is rather interesting. Using third party apps might take care of it, but the apps I have aren't the ones used. I use Hotstop and iTrans, but neither of those were used by Maps. Instead, I had to download a few others.
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We use the mass transit directions on the current google maps, and find them very useful I have other apps that do it specifically, but most of the time Maps is where I go. That will be a loss for me when I upgrade to iOS 6.




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Re: Maps in iOS6

Zeedar Marc
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On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:15 PM, David Weintraub <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The new maps application is certainly pretty, but I do miss the street view, and the information is a bit limited. However, I suspect with 400,000+ iOS 6 users running hither and thither, that the map information will be much better over time.

While I am sure the map info will improve, my very first test did not impress me much. I asked Siri, "Take me to the nearest Apple Store."

I figured that for sure Apple would have programmed their own stores into it, right?

Siri gave me directions to Cupertino to Apple, Inc. Nothing I asked it would get it to show me directions to an actual Apple Store (there are three in my area). It's probably because "apple" and "store" are too generic. Other queries I tried (restaurants, movie times, etc.) were much better. When I typed in "Apple Store" in the Maps app it did find the stores and guided me just fine.

I like how the turn-by-turn directions are very large and readable. The route it gave me is the same one I use, but it also showed me two alternate routes, which is very nice.

I suspect Google will release their own Maps app (just like their You Tube one) and you'll have your Street Views there.


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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On 20 Sep 2012, at 01:12 , Zeedar Marc wrote:
> Siri gave me directions to Cupertino to Apple, Inc. Nothing I asked it would get it to show me directions to an actual Apple Store (there are three in my area). It's probably because "apple" and "store" are too generic.

It's probably because Apple, Cupertino is still in your contacts list?

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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 09:12, Zeedar Marc <[hidden email]> wrote:

> While I am sure the map info will improve, my very first test did not impress me much.

Same here! As someone with low vision, I depend on the Maps application a lot for walking directions.  For the moment, however, and at least for Paris, the Apple maps seem to be far less accurate than Google maps.  Here is just one example.  As a test, I tried to get walking directions to a nearby restaurant.  The map software dropped a red pin in roughly the right spot for the restaurant, but the blue line indicating walking directions wandered off in the opposite direction:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100181148/iOS6-iPad.PNG

Contrast this with a screen shot of the same map shown on an old iPod Touch running iOS 4:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100181148/iOS4-iPod.PNG

This was the first example I tried.  I tried others that had varying degrees of error.  I have occasionally run into minor problems with Google Maps, but nothing on this scale.  I don't think that I can trust iOS 6 maps at this time.  I'm looking forward to the Google Maps app.




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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Rodney <[hidden email]> wrote:

> As a test, I tried to get walking directions to a nearby restaurant.  The map software dropped a red pin in roughly the right spot for the restaurant, but the blue line indicating walking directions wandered off in the opposite direction:

That's just so you work off some calories before going to lunch. :-)

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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On 20 Sep 2012, at 05:28 , Rodney wrote:
> Same here! As someone with low vision, I depend on the Maps application a lot for walking directions.

The Maps application in iOS 6 is designed for driving, and only for driving. It is not designed at all for walking (it will enforce one way streets, for example), nor is it designed for mass transit.

Hopefully that will change in the future, but obviously the priority for Apple is going to be driving.

There are other apps out there designed for transit and/or walking directions, and for now at least you are going to need to use one of those.

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Re: Maps in iOS6

Rodney
On Sep 20, 2012, at 14:35, LuKreme <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The Maps application in iOS 6 is designed for driving, and only for driving. It is not designed at all for walking (it will enforce one way streets, for example), nor is it designed for mass transit.

Then why is it that it offers a choice between walking and driving directions, and why does it show a different route depending on the choice? The waling route does NOT enforce one way streets.  I have tested it on several routes that I am already familiar with, and I could not find one single incidence of this happening.

FYI, here is a map showing the driving directions to the same destination:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100181148/iOS6-iPad-driving.PNG

It is just as wrong as the map with walking directions, although it does enforce one-way streets.

FYI, the best way to get there driving would be to follow Route 2, except stay straight on rue de la Convention instead of turning left on Avenue Emile Zola, then eventually turn left onto rue St. Charles.

Whatever the app was designed for, accuracy was not, at least for the moment, given a high priority.  Maybe US maps are better.  I can only assume that the Apple maps app is a work in progress.  I can only hope that progress will be rapid.




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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Rodney <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Whatever the app was designed for, accuracy was not, at least for the moment, given a high priority.  Maybe US maps are better.  I can only assume that the Apple maps app is a work in progress.  I can only hope that progress will be rapid.
>
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One thing I always check is a nearby intersection where, about 5 or so years ago, two roads emptying out onto a main road were realigned to form a crossroads rather than two T's about 100 feet apart on either side of the road (Bear Meadows Rd., Elks Club Rd., US 322 near Boalsburg, PA).  Garmin finally got it right after a few years.  I checked yesterday in Apple maps and they're misaligned, although if you look in hybrid view, you can see the actual road as it veers from the two road traces.  Wherever Apple got their maps, they seem to be at least five years old.  So at least in this case, there's an error in a US map.

I still haven't checked I-99 between State College and Altoona to see if they have that right.  That was also completed 5 or so years ago, and for years afterwards my Garmin GPS was massively confused when we were driving on a road that it didn't know existed.

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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Zeedar Marc <[hidden email]> wrote:

> While I am sure the map info will improve, my very first test did not impress me much. I asked Siri, "Take me to the nearest Apple Store."
>
> I figured that for sure Apple would have programmed their own stores into it, right?
>
> Siri gave me directions to Cupertino to Apple, Inc. Nothing I asked it would get it to show me directions to an actual Apple Store (there are three in my area). It's probably because "apple" and "store" are too generic. Other queries I tried (restaurants, movie times, etc.) were much better. When I typed in "Apple Store" in the Maps app it did find the stores and guided me just fine.


Did you try "Apple retail store"? That works for me with Siri.
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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 15:42, Paul Schinder <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So at least in this case, there's an error in a US map.

I just saw this on the BBC web site.  Apparently, I'm not the only one having problems:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19659736

Maybe the maps app will be this iPhone's antennagate.  I reckon they're entitled to one big problem per release.  Perhaps it'll work better if I hold it right...:-)




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Re: Maps in iOS6

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I remember using Google maps a few years ago and how bad the directions were. Many times Google Maps had me turning left onto limited access roads.

Google maps really didn't start getting good until about a year after the iPhone came out. Suddenly, Google had all that data and Google maps directions got so much better. By the time Google offered turn by turn directions on Android, Google's directions couldn't be beat.

Apple has been collecting driving information from iOS since iOS 5 came out. Right now, I haven't found any serious issues with the directions. In NYC, the public information on businesses isn't too bad. Apple doesn't have Google's search database, but I know that Yelp's information has improved remarkably in the last year.

Corporatewise, Apple couldn't continue to allow Google to continue using iOS to improve Android. The fate of Google's applications on iOS was sealed with the advent of Android.

Google Maps might return to iOS, but not for a while. Google wants to take advantage of Apple's inferior Map app as a means of pushing Android. Even then, Apple may limit the data that Google can harvest from iOS.

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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Howard E. Rosenman wrote:

> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Zeedar Marc <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> While I am sure the map info will improve, my very first test did not impress me much. I asked Siri, "Take me to the nearest Apple Store."
>>
>> I figured that for sure Apple would have programmed their own stores into it, right?
>>
>> Siri gave me directions to Cupertino to Apple, Inc. Nothing I asked it would get it to show me directions to an actual Apple Store (there are three in my area). It's probably because "apple" and "store" are too generic. Other queries I tried (restaurants, movie times, etc.) were much better. When I typed in "Apple Store" in the Maps app it did find the stores and guided me just fine.
>
>
> Did you try "Apple retail store"? That works for me with Siri.

I just tried that and got McCutcheon's Apple Products store in Frederick, MD. There are two Apple retail stores within 30 miles of me (Reston, VA and Tyson's Corner, VA).

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Re: Maps in iOS6

Zeedar Marc
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On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:48 AM, "Howard E. Rosenman" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> While I am sure the map info will improve, my very first test did not impress me much. I asked Siri, "Take me to the nearest Apple Store."
>
> Did you try "Apple retail store"? That works for me with Siri.

Actually, I did figure that out later, after I posted the previous message. While that does work perfectly, I'm not sure average people would think to phrase it that way.


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Re: Maps in iOS6

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Just tried "Where can I buy an iPhone?" and "Where can I buy a Mac?" - both launched the Apple Store app :)
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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Qazwart <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Google maps really didn't start getting good until about a year after the iPhone came out. Suddenly, Google had all that data and Google maps directions got so much better.

It should be mentioned, for those who haven't noticed, that if you bring up the page curl in Maps to reveal the settings, there's a tiny black-on-gray text button that reads "Report a Problem." Touching that allows you to tell Apple about inaccurate streets and map data. We all should do this when we find map errors and I'm sure that will improve the mapping quite rapidly. Mapping is a technology like Siri that requires data to improve.


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Re: Maps in iOS6

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Publisher <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It should be mentioned, for those who haven't noticed, that if you bring up the page curl in Maps to reveal the settings, there's a tiny black-on-gray text button that reads "Report a Problem." Touching that allows you to tell Apple about inaccurate streets and map data. We all should do this when we find map errors and I'm sure that will improve the mapping quite rapidly. Mapping is a technology like Siri that requires data to improve.

You can also access a similar button (with slightly different options) in the detail page for any point of interest.

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Re: Maps in iOS6

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As was pointed out in the New York Times <http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/technology/apple-ios-6-leaves-out-googles-maps.html?hp>, the app can have trouble if 2 streets in neighboring communities have the same name. For example, one of addresses in my Contact list is on Hillcrest Rd in Mill Valley, CA. When I pointed at that address, Maps took me to a location in the neighboring town of Tiburon with the same street address. The two streets are several miles apart and are not both are short streets that are not continuations of one another. I used the report a problem box accessible from a search to point out this specific problem.

At least the full 3D perspective works in my home neighborhood.

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Re: Maps in iOS6

Rodney
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On Sep 20, 2012, at 15:59, Qazwart <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Apple has been collecting driving information from iOS since iOS 5 came out.

According to the BBC link I posted earlier, Apple got their map data from TomTom.  They've been around a while, and I think they're really big in Europe.  I would expect something better "out of the box".

TomTom has their own app for sale in the app store, and it ain't cheap.  Perhaps they were unwilling to give Apple the latest and greatest data.

> Corporatewise, Apple couldn't continue to allow Google to continue using iOS to improve Android. The fate of Google's applications on iOS was sealed with the advent of Android.

I think that the problem was the amount of money Google was asking for the map data.  I'm not sure they'd care about having a Google app otherwise.  Apple makes a lot of money selling hardware, unlike Google, so as long as the iPhone overall is competitive, it doesn't matter if Google can improve its own Android app at the same time.  This kind of arrangement works find for the Kindle app.

> Google Maps might return to iOS, but not for a while. Google wants to take advantage of Apple's inferior Map app as a means of pushing Android. Even then, Apple may limit the data that Google can harvest from iOS.

Could be, but I think that Google would want to return sooner rather than later before Apple has time to get its maps straight.




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Re: Maps in iOS6

Mike Noonan
Read today's Pogue article about why Maps came about.  Android was getting  
preferences, etc.

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/new-ios-6-loses-google-maps-but-adds-other-features/?nl=technology&emc=edit_ct_20120920

There are only a few map data collection companies (less than 5?) who  
supply the GPS device companies.  I'd assume that there are huge expenses  
(trucks to map and remap, people to collect, process the data, etc).  So,  
if you were Tom-Tom and were about to lose serious revenue, wouldn't  
making an alliance with Apple to provide their data to offset your losses  
be smart?  My Tom-Tom app cost $54 bucks but had no update maps fees which  
standalone devices were required to pay for.  My original Tom-Tom was $750  
with voice recognition (bleeding edge buyer).

Speaking of GPS, I have to hard stop my GPS based apps on my 4s because  
they suck the life from my battery. I could use my 4s as a hand-warmer  
after a trip and couldn't really use it that long without USB power.  
We'll see how Maps treats the battery.

I even stopped the Weather app from using the location aware setting to  
provide my weather as it too was affecting the battery.  After all, I'm  
home and I'm already aware of my location.  At least for now.

Mike

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> I think that the problem was the amount of money Google was asking for  
> the map data.  I'm not sure they'd care about having a Google app  
> otherwise.  Apple makes a lot of money selling hardware, unlike Google,  
> so as long as the iPhone overall is competitive, it doesn't matter if  
> Google can improve its own Android app at the same time.  This kind of  
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