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High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

"John Turner the Bear😎"

Hi Gang!

I just updated to High Sierra High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) this afternoon. Installation takes quite a bit of time. For those of you with older Macs I m running a Mac Mini (mid 2011) with SSD drive and 16 gigs of RAM. Everything works great, except for Disk Utility. It locked up my Mac 4 times when trying to run it. Force Quit was not accessible had to do a Hard Shutdown each time. Ran Disk Utility from online with no problem. It reported all was well.

Just for curiosity, I reinstalled the OS from scratch from Flash Drive  and still had the problem. I was able to run CleanMyMac 3 with no problems. It corrected permissions, and did all necessary maintenance. Launched Disk Utility again and it locked up everything again.

When installing High Sierra it noted that I have an SSD drive and used the new formatting, there was no option to not use it! Was surprised, but all is working really well! Every single app and extension is working perfectly. My Mac also seems to be running faster too.

Bear😎 



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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

 Allen WATSON
Do others confirm that there is no option? If High Sierra does not let me opt out, I don’t think I will install, after reading Mike Bombich’s advice on his blog.

On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:42 PM, John Turner <[hidden email]> wrote:

When installing High Sierra it noted that I have an SSD drive and used the new formatting, there was no option to not use it! 




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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

Alan Forkosh
I installed it on a 2015 MacBook Pro with an internal 1TB SSD. There was a checkbox to enable APFS. I can’t remember if it was pre-filled in or not. So I am not sure if it is the default. However, it is definitely east to opt-out and stay with HFS+ (at least on the initail publi beta). However, once you have changed to APFS, the only way back would be to erase and re-initialize the drive.

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On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Allen Watson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Do others confirm that there is no option? If High Sierra does not let me opt out, I don’t think I will install, after reading Mike Bombich’s advice on his blog.

On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:42 PM, John Turner <[hidden email]> wrote:

When installing High Sierra it noted that I have an SSD drive and used the new formatting, there was no option to not use it! 



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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

Ryoichi Morita-4
In reply to this post by "John Turner the Bear😎"
On July 19, 2017 at 3:43:27 PM, John Turner ([hidden email]) wrote:

I just updated to High Sierra High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) this afternoon. Installation takes quite a bit of time. For those of you with older Macs I m running a Mac Mini (mid 2011) with SSD drive and 16 gigs of RAM. Everything works great, except for Disk Utility. It locked up my Mac 4 times when trying to run it. Force Quit was not accessible had to do a Hard Shutdown each time. Ran Disk Utility from online with no problem. It reported all was well.

Sorry to hear about your problem with Disk Utility. No problem here. Could it be that somehow, you’re running an old version of Disk Utility? Have you tried running it in recovery mode? 

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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

"John Turner the Bear😎"
In reply to this post by Alan Forkosh
Remember I have an SSD drive not the older style drive. For the current beta there is no opt out when it detects the SSD drive, at least that was the case on my Mac today.

I have no problems with any apps or my Time Machine. From where I stand using an older Mac it is just fine!

Bear😎 


From: Alan Forkosh [hidden email]
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Date: July 19, 2017 at 7:01:11 PM
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Subject:  Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

I installed it on a 2015 MacBook Pro with an internal 1TB SSD. There was a checkbox to enable APFS. I can’t remember if it was pre-filled in or not. So I am not sure if it is the default. However, it is definitely east to opt-out and stay with HFS+ (at least on the initail publi beta). However, once you have changed to APFS, the only way back would be to erase and re-initialize the drive.

Alan Forkosh                    Oakland, CA
[hidden email]
http://al4kosh.com



On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Allen Watson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Do others confirm that there is no option? If High Sierra does not let me opt out, I don’t think I will install, after reading Mike Bombich’s advice on his blog.

On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:42 PM, John Turner <[hidden email]> wrote:

When installing High Sierra it noted that I have an SSD drive and used the new formatting, there was no option to not use it! 



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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

"John Turner the Bear😎"
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Disk Utility works great in Recovery. Just not on my drive. I have put in a call to Apple to see if I somehow have an older version.The one on my drive currently says that it is from June 2017.

Bear😎 


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Date: July 19, 2017 at 7:04:28 PM
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Subject:  Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

On July 19, 2017 at 3:43:27 PM, John Turner ([hidden email]) wrote:

I just updated to High Sierra High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) this afternoon. Installation takes quite a bit of time. For those of you with older Macs I m running a Mac Mini (mid 2011) with SSD drive and 16 gigs of RAM. Everything works great, except for Disk Utility. It locked up my Mac 4 times when trying to run it. Force Quit was not accessible had to do a Hard Shutdown each time. Ran Disk Utility from online with no problem. It reported all was well.

Sorry to hear about your problem with Disk Utility. No problem here. Could it be that somehow, you’re running an old version of Disk Utility? Have you tried running it in recovery mode? 

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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

Ryoichi Morita-4
As one of the beta testers, I feel your pain and frustrations. Believe me. 

I was hoping they will come out with Public Beta 4 today, but they came out with the Sierra update 10.12.6. instead. 

Hopefully, the next beta release will address your problem. 

Ryoichi Morita



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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

"John Turner the Bear😎"
If this is the only problem I run into, it’s not that bad. In the old days, when I was testing OS 7 there was all kinds of weirdness. The good news is that Disk Utility in Recovery Mode is really fast. By the way do you know what the most current version of Disk Utility is? I cannot imagine that mine is not current since I installed from scratch.

Bear😎 


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Date: July 19, 2017 at 8:26:42 PM
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Subject:  Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

As one of the beta testers, I feel your pain and frustrations. Believe me. 

I was hoping they will come out with Public Beta 4 today, but they came out with the Sierra update 10.12.6. instead. 

Hopefully, the next beta release will address your problem. 

Ryoichi Morita


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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

Ryoichi Morita-4
On July 19, 2017 at 5:43:39 PM, John Turner ([hidden email]) wrote:
 By the way do you know what the most current version of Disk Utility is? I cannot imagine that mine is not current since I installed from scratch.

Mine says version 17.0, build 1615. 

The only way I know how to tell a new one (High Sierra) from the old one (Sierra) is to look under the Edit menu. The new app has options to convert to APFS, add APFS and delete APFS. 

Ryoichi Morita





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Re: High Sierra 10.13 Beta (17A306f) Disk Utility locks up Mac 4 times today.

Alan Forkosh
My MacBookPro, running the latest public High Sierra beta has the same release info as Ryoichi.

For comparison, the version running on my iMac under Sierra is Version 16.3 (1579.1). Both versions show copyright 2015-2017. So the one on Sierra is post the initial release of Sierra (since I loaded it in late 2016).

By the way, I am somewhat confused by Mr. Turner’s reply to my earlier message about installing the High Sierra Beta. I installed the initial public version on a MacBookPro whose storage is SSD only and was given the option to upgrade the filesystem to APFS or not upgrade it, seemingly different from his experience.

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On Jul 19, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Ryoichi Morita <[hidden email]> wrote:

Mine says version 17.0, build 1615. 

The only way I know how to tell a new one (High Sierra) from the old one (Sierra) is to look under the Edit menu. The new app has options to convert to APFS, add APFS and delete APFS. 

Ryoichi Morita





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