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Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

Jerome King-2
You can help by getting to the second ¶

As some of you now know I have retired my bendable cell phone (I called it my iPhone 8 but Apple had trademarked the name) which was a Samsung Flip Phone.  But I had decided for a couple of reasons to get an iPhone. The primary one being that I wanted the iPhone to deliver telephone calls to the cell phone.  My ReSound Linx hearing aids are bluetooth compatible with Apple’s bluetooth structure for iDevices. (I have for over 4 years been streaming music from my iPad Air to my hearing aids while reading off my iPad.)

Now the problem.  I am UNABLE to pair / link, etc my hearing aids to my iPhone 7.  I’ve replaced the batteries, I’ve opened the battery compartment, etc. etc.  I’ve gone the Settings / Accessibility / Hearing process many times and sometimes am offered the option to "pair" my hearing aids to the iPhone.  This never holds for more than 5 minutes
        My iPhone doesn’t recognize the Triple Tap Home button sequence to bring up the hearing aid choice even though it had sometimes in the past

My iPad Air is still functioning perfectly. It sees my hearing aids and lets me adjust the aid settings
        Is it possible that, like an old girlfriend, the iPad Air is interfering with my new relationship?  As soon as I "commit" to pairing with the iPhone it steps in and claims prior relationships?
                Do I need a Bluetooth lawyer?

Seriously, I am reaping NONe of the benefits I expected by buying an iPhone.
        Do you have both an iPad and an iPhone talking to your ears?  Do you have to do anything special to make it work? One member has two iPhones sharing his ears and he has to Power OFF 1 so the other will work

        I have an appointment with my audiologist soon to try to solve the issue.
        I also have Apple Care Plus on the iPhone.
        Any good suggestions will be tried and success will be trumpeted.

Thanks in advance for your help




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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

Fred Pryor
I’m willing to bet your aids can only pair with one device at a time. Mine are a different manufacturer, but I need to turn off my iPhone so my audiologist can connect for firmware update etc. If I leave the Bluetooth 4.2 on on my iPad then my iPhone 6’s Bluetooth 4.0 won’t connect, even if I’ve told the iPad to forget the aids.

From Fred's iPad

> On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> You can help by getting to the second ¶
>
> As some of you now know I have retired my bendable cell phone (I called it my iPhone 8 but Apple had trademarked the name) which was a Samsung Flip Phone.  But I had decided for a couple of reasons to get an iPhone. The primary one being that I wanted the iPhone to deliver telephone calls to the cell phone.  My ReSound Linx hearing aids are bluetooth compatible with Apple’s bluetooth structure for iDevices. (I have for over 4 years been streaming music from my iPad Air to my hearing aids while reading off my iPad.)
>
> Now the problem.  I am UNABLE to pair / link, etc my hearing aids to my iPhone 7.  I’ve replaced the batteries, I’ve opened the battery compartment, etc. etc.  I’ve gone the Settings / Accessibility / Hearing process many times and sometimes am offered the option to "pair" my hearing aids to the iPhone.  This never holds for more than 5 minutes
>    My iPhone doesn’t recognize the Triple Tap Home button sequence to bring up the hearing aid choice even though it had sometimes in the past
>
> My iPad Air is still functioning perfectly. It sees my hearing aids and lets me adjust the aid settings
>    Is it possible that, like an old girlfriend, the iPad Air is interfering with my new relationship?  As soon as I "commit" to pairing with the iPhone it steps in and claims prior relationships?
>        Do I need a Bluetooth lawyer?
>
> Seriously, I am reaping NONe of the benefits I expected by buying an iPhone.
>    Do you have both an iPad and an iPhone talking to your ears?  Do you have to do anything special to make it work? One member has two iPhones sharing his ears and he has to Power OFF 1 so the other will work
>
>    I have an appointment with my audiologist soon to try to solve the issue.
>    I also have Apple Care Plus on the iPhone.
>    Any good suggestions will be tried and success will be trumpeted.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
>
>
>
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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

Paul Schinder
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> On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> My iPad Air is still functioning perfectly. It sees my hearing aids and lets me adjust the aid settings
> Is it possible that, like an old girlfriend, the iPad Air is interfering with my new relationship?  As soon as I "commit" to pairing with the iPhone it steps in and claims prior relationships?
> Do I need a Bluetooth lawyer?
>

Did you unpair them from your iPad and then pair them to your iPhone?  Bluetooth has issues.  One of them is that it’s often the case that a Bluetooth device will only pair to one head unit.  I have some cheap Bluetooth headphones that I’ve been using for years since I keep my iPhone in a LifeProof case and it’s difficult to use wired headphones with the case.  Whenever I want to switch my Bluetooth headphones from iPad to iPhone or back I first have to unpair them from the device I currently have them connected to.

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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

Jerry King
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Thanks. Suspect that is the issue


Jerry


> On Oct 8, 2017, at 6:09 PM, Fred Pryor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I’m willing to bet your aids can only pair with one device at a time. Mine are a different manufacturer, but I need to turn off my iPhone so my audiologist can connect for firmware update etc. If I leave the Bluetooth 4.2 on on my iPad then my iPhone 6’s Bluetooth 4.0 won’t connect, even if I’ve told the iPad to forget the aids.
>
> From Fred's iPad
>
>> On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> You can help by getting to the second ¶
>>
>> As some of you now know I have retired my bendable cell phone (I called it my iPhone 8 but Apple had trademarked the name) which was a Samsung Flip Phone.  But I had decided for a couple of reasons to get an iPhone. The primary one being that I wanted the iPhone to deliver telephone calls to the cell phone.  My ReSound Linx hearing aids are bluetooth compatible with Apple’s bluetooth structure for iDevices. (I have for over 4 years been streaming music from my iPad Air to my hearing aids while reading off my iPad.)
>>
>> Now the problem.  I am UNABLE to pair / link, etc my hearing aids to my iPhone 7.  I’ve replaced the batteries, I’ve opened the battery compartment, etc. etc.  I’ve gone the Settings / Accessibility / Hearing process many times and sometimes am offered the option to "pair" my hearing aids to the iPhone.  This never holds for more than 5 minutes
>>   My iPhone doesn’t recognize the Triple Tap Home button sequence to bring up the hearing aid choice even though it had sometimes in the past
>>
>> My iPad Air is still functioning perfectly. It sees my hearing aids and lets me adjust the aid settings
>>   Is it possible that, like an old girlfriend, the iPad Air is interfering with my new relationship?  As soon as I "commit" to pairing with the iPhone it steps in and claims prior relationships?
>>       Do I need a Bluetooth lawyer?
>>
>> Seriously, I am reaping NONe of the benefits I expected by buying an iPhone.
>>   Do you have both an iPad and an iPhone talking to your ears?  Do you have to do anything special to make it work? One member has two iPhones sharing his ears and he has to Power OFF 1 so the other will work
>>
>>   I have an appointment with my audiologist soon to try to solve the issue.
>>   I also have Apple Care Plus on the iPhone.
>>   Any good suggestions will be tried and success will be trumpeted.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

Jerry King
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Thanks. My >$2000 per aid aren’t cheap in my mind they are over 3 years old. Any one want a new Verizon compliant iPhone 7?  Only 10minutes of talk time?


Jerry


> On Oct 8, 2017, at 6:10 PM, Paul Schinder <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> My iPad Air is still functioning perfectly. It sees my hearing aids and lets me adjust the aid settings
>>    Is it possible that, like an old girlfriend, the iPad Air is interfering with my new relationship?  As soon as I "commit" to pairing with the iPhone it steps in and claims prior relationships?
>>        Do I need a Bluetooth lawyer?
>>
>
> Did you unpair them from your iPad and then pair them to your iPhone?  Bluetooth has issues.  One of them is that it’s often the case that a Bluetooth device will only pair to one head unit.  I have some cheap Bluetooth headphones that I’ve been using for years since I keep my iPhone in a LifeProof case and it’s difficult to use wired headphones with the case.  Whenever I want to switch my Bluetooth headphones from iPad to iPhone or back I first have to unpair them from the device I currently have them connected to.
>
> --
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> [hidden email]
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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

@lbutlr
On 08 Oct 2017, at 17:06, Jerry King <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks. My >$2000 per aid aren’t cheap in my mind they are over 3 years old. Any one want a new Verizon compliant iPhone 7?  Only 10minutes of talk time?

$2000 is pretty cheap for hearing aids, a friend of mine got some about 4 years ago and they were over $6500 for the pair.

If your hearing loss is the common “old-age” hearing loss that many people experience, you might be able to go with a much cheaper and better alternative using bone conducting headphones (about $100-150) and some iOS apps (under $10) that use the iPhone speaker to amplify voices and mitigate background sound.

<http://www.intelligentelectrons.com/journal/2016/12/2/better-hearing-through-better-technology-and-affordable-too>
<http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2016/12/ccatp-466/>

A huge advantage to bone-conduction is that your ears are not covered or plugged. The main disadvantage is that they are basically useless in loud environments (though I’ve heard of one person who wears them with those squishy earplugs).

But most hearing aids are still made more or less as they were 10, 15, or 20 years ago. The idea of allowing them to pair with multiple devices over BT is still pretty rare. It is not a failure of the phone that the hearing aids can only handle one connection at a time and you would have this same experience with all devices.

[I own Hearing Aid Plus but I’ve never used it. I got it with plans to use it with my FIL before he died, but he was unwilling to even try the headphones. I don’t regret the purchase however, as I was happy to support the work the developer was doing after hearing the podcast. Besides, Eventually I’ll probably need some sort of aural enhancements.]

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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

David Ross
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> Thanks. My >$2000 per aid aren’t cheap in my mind they are over 3 years old. Any one want a new Verizon compliant iPhone 7?  Only 10minutes of talk time?
It might be your hearing aides. When I upgraded to iOS 9 (I think) a set
of Bluetooth speakers and a pair of headphones stopped working. They
were not compatible with the current Bluetooth spec and no firmware
updates were available. The current Bluetooth spec SHOULD work with
older devices but not all of them correctly implemented the older spec.

You might try and find out if they will pair with an iPhone on an older
iOS version. 8 or prior.

Or see if there are any firmware updates for your hearing aides.

David


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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

Jerry King
Thanks


Jerry


On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:20 PM, David Ross <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> Thanks. My >$2000 per aid aren’t cheap in my mind they are over 3 years old. Any one want a new Verizon compliant iPhone 7?  Only 10minutes of talk time?
> It might be your hearing aides. When I upgraded to iOS 9 (I think) a set of Bluetooth speakers and a pair of headphones stopped working. They were not compatible with the current Bluetooth spec and no firmware updates were available. The current Bluetooth spec SHOULD work with older devices but not all of them correctly implemented the older spec.
>
> You might try and find out if they will pair with an iPhone on an older iOS version. 8 or prior.
>
> Or see if there are any firmware updates for your hearing aides.
>
> David
>
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Re: Hell has Frozen Over Consequences

George Wade
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A good audiologist would have a notice in the office window: 'Phone & Bluetooth matching.' Cars can do it, after all.
George

On 8 Oct 2017, at 18:09, Fred Pryor wrote:

> I’m willing to bet your aids can only pair with one device at a time. Mine are a different manufacturer, but I need to turn off my iPhone so my audiologist can connect for firmware update etc. If I leave the Bluetooth 4.2 on on my iPad then my iPhone 6’s Bluetooth 4.0 won’t connect, even if I’ve told the iPad to forget the aids.
>
> From Fred's iPad
>
>> On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Jerome King <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> You can help by getting to the second ¶
>>
>> As some of you now know I have retired my bendable cell phone (I called it my iPhone 8 but Apple had trademarked the name) which was a Samsung Flip Phone.  But I had decided for a couple of reasons to get an iPhone. The primary one being that I wanted the iPhone to deliver telephone calls to the cell phone.  My ReSound Linx hearing aids are bluetooth compatible with Apple’s bluetooth structure for iDevices. (I have for over 4 years been streaming music from my iPad Air to my hearing aids while reading off my iPad.)
>>
>> Now the problem.  I am UNABLE to pair / link, etc my hearing aids to my iPhone 7.



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