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Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Alexander Forbes
Has anyone else experienced failure of fingerprint recognition in recent iOS releases?

I had some brief problems in earlier releases and had to reprogram thumb and index fingerprints/ With the latest iOS 11.0.3 update I expected it to fail again, and it did. I retrained it and got the “successful” script. But it did not work from the first try. I noticed this problem intermittently on my older iPhone 6+ Home sensor - so I don’t particularly suspect a problem on my 7+.

I gave up fooling with it and just use the four digit code to log in.


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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

David Tuma
I used to have problems but Apple had me do the fingerprint signature with the same finer 2X.
I didn’t have probs since then.
David


On Oct 30, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Alexander Forbes <[hidden email]> wrote:

Has anyone else experienced failure of fingerprint recognition in recent iOS releases?

I had some brief problems in earlier releases and had to reprogram thumb and index fingerprints/ With the latest iOS 11.0.3 update I expected it to fail again, and it did. I retrained it and got the “successful” script. But it did not work from the first try. I noticed this problem intermittently on my older iPhone 6+ Home sensor - so I don’t particularly suspect a problem on my 7+.

I gave up fooling with it and just use the four digit code to log in.


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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

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On Oct 30, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Alexander Forbes <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Has anyone else experienced failure of fingerprint recognition in recent iOS releases?

Nope. It continues to work perfectly for me. However, My mother has never been able to get TouchID to work for her on her iPhone 6.

> I gave up fooling with it and just use the four digit code to log in.

At least go to a 6 digit (or longer) pin.

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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Lynne Adema-2
The Touch id is very sensitive. If my fingers are slightly moist or I
have hand cream on, sometimes the phone won't read it.


On 10/31/2017 4:37 AM, @lbutlr wrote:
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Alexander Forbes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Has anyone else experienced failure of fingerprint recognition in recent iOS releases?
> Nope. It continues to work perfectly for me. However, My mother has never been able to get TouchID to work for her on her iPhone 6.
>
>> I gave up fooling with it and just use the four digit code to log in.
> At least go to a 6 digit (or longer) pin.
>

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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Richard Rettke
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On 30 Oct 2017, at 10:30, Alexander Forbes [hidden email] wrote:

Has anyone else experienced failure of fingerprint recognition in recent iOS releases?

Short answer, NO!

When I first got my iPhone 6s Plus, I had a terrible time getting it to work consistently.

I did a lot of searching and reading and did what I thought were really goofball things, but they seemed to have worked.

  1. Only record one finger. Every time I would record more than 1 fingers fingerprint, none of them worked consistently. Having only one solved part of the issue for me. I have not tried to record more than one recently, software updates may have solved that.

  2. The real biggy for me, and this did seem and still does seem a little screwy, was, for maybe a week, half-dozen times a day , I would go into Settings>Touch ID & Passcode and repeatedly touch the sensor so the line for (in this case), Finger 1, turned gray. I would reposition and do this finger touching repeatedly maybe a dozen times. After a week or so, no problem.

No problem after upgrading to iOS 11. Finger Print recognition is one of the most reliable things on my phone these days.

I had read somewhere that doing this repeated 're-training' of the finger print would improve recognition. I was skeptical but it did seem to resolve my issues.

FYI, it will not recognize my finger print if my finger has even the slightest moisture or lotion on it. Must be dry.

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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Howard E. Rosenman
Also, I have found that the Home button (for those of us who still have one) also must be perfectly clean and dry.

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On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Richard Rettke <[hidden email]> wrote:

FYI, it will not recognize my finger print if my finger has even the slightest moisture or lotion on it. Must be dry.




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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

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Thanks for the tips. I just deleted all my fingerprints and re-did the one I usually use. Let's see if that works. (I had noticed that since the upgrade, I was having more problems with touch login.




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On 30 Oct 2017, at 10:30, Alexander Forbes [hidden email] wrote:
Has anyone else experienced failure of fingerprint recognition in recent iOS releases?
Short answer, NO!
When I first got my iPhone 6s Plus, I had a terrible time getting it to work consistently.
I did a lot of searching and reading and did what I thought were really goofball things, but they seemed to have worked.
  1. Only record one finger. Every time I would record more than 1 fingers fingerprint, none of them worked consistently. Having only one solved part of the issue for me. I have not tried to record more than one recently, software updates may have solved that.
  2. The real biggy for me, and this did seem and still does seem a little screwy, was, for maybe a week, half-dozen times a day , I would go into Settings>Touch ID & Passcode and repeatedly touch the sensor so the line for (in this case), Finger 1, turned gray. I would reposition and do this finger touching repeatedly maybe a dozen times. After a week or so, no problem.
No problem after upgrading to iOS 11. Finger Print recognition is one of the most reliable things on my phone these days.
I had read somewhere that doing this repeated 're-training' of the finger print would improve recognition. I was skeptical but it did seem to resolve my issues.
FYI, it will not recognize my finger print if my finger has even the slightest moisture or lotion on it. Must be dry.
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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

John Robinson-3
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My 3 month old SE, has issues with touch recognition. If I press slightly and leave my finger on its surface momentarily, the SE seems to work, but not as successfully as my 10.5 inch iPad Pro. It works every time.

Try placing your finger once and don’t move it for a time. It’s slow, but works on my SE.

Sent from JRs iPad Pro 

On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Richard Rettke <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 30 Oct 2017, at 10:30, Alexander Forbes [hidden email] wrote:

Has anyone else experienced failure of fingerprint recognition in recent iOS releases?

Short answer, NO!

When I first got my iPhone 6s Plus, I had a terrible time getting it to work consistently.

I did a lot of searching and reading and did what I thought were really goofball things, but they seemed to have worked.

  1. Only record one finger. Every time I would record more than 1 fingers fingerprint, none of them worked consistently. Having only one solved part of the issue for me. I have not tried to record more than one recently, software updates may have solved that.

  2. The real biggy for me, and this did seem and still does seem a little screwy, was, for maybe a week, half-dozen times a day , I would go into Settings>Touch ID & Passcode and repeatedly touch the sensor so the line for (in this case), Finger 1, turned gray. I would reposition and do this finger touching repeatedly maybe a dozen times. After a week or so, no problem.

No problem after upgrading to iOS 11. Finger Print recognition is one of the most reliable things on my phone these days.

I had read somewhere that doing this repeated 're-training' of the finger print would improve recognition. I was skeptical but it did seem to resolve my issues.

FYI, it will not recognize my finger print if my finger has even the slightest moisture or lotion on it. Must be dry.

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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Alexander Forbes
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On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Richard Rettke <[hidden email]> wrote:

FYI, it will not recognize my finger print if my finger has even the slightest moisture or lotion on it. Must be dry.

For me, that could be it. I have to wash my hands a lot before applying eye meds. Plus, I suspect that handing chlorine tabs for the pool has kind of beat up my fingertips. They are dry and rough. Being 74 doesn’t help much, either :-)

So, I use a lot of lotion. I will probably just stick with entering the key code on iPhone and iPad.

If I go to six digits as lbutlr suggested, I would change it on both devices. I do not think Apple uses it anywhere else?
Thanks everyone,

Alex 




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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Alan Forkosh
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I haven’t noticed any change in IOS 11, but I have noticed a little strangeness from the beginning:

1) Touch ID often fails for unlocking if my finger is a bit moist (i.e. after rinsing and wiping or wiping sweat). At that point I just use the keypad.

2) Touch ID never seems to fail when used for verification (App or iTunes store confirmations, Apple Pay confirmation, etc>). Note that the Apple Pay confirmation is almost never for a store purchase since I use my Apple watch for that.

These often occur  after an unlock, so my finger and home button are not significantly drier. I’m curious if there is a lower threshold for approval once the device is unlocked.

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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Ryoichi Morita-4


On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Alan Forkosh <[hidden email]> wrote:

I haven’t noticed any change in IOS 11, but I have noticed a little strangeness from the beginning:

1) Touch ID often fails for unlocking if my finger is a bit moist (i.e. after rinsing and wiping or wiping sweat). At that point I just use the keypad.

I have a hard protective case on my iPhone. Although I use my index finger, it is still a little tough to lay my finger completely on the button. Sometimes, I find it much easier and faster to just enter the passcode. 


2) Touch ID never seems to fail when used for verification (App or iTunes store confirmations, Apple Pay confirmation, etc>). Note that the Apple Pay confirmation is almost never for a store purchase since I use my Apple watch for that.

These often occur  after an unlock, so my finger and home button are not significantly drier. I’m curious if there is a lower threshold for approval once the device is unlocked.

I’ve noticed that, too. Wells Fargo’s banking app easily recognizes my fingerprint. 

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Re: Fingerprint recognition iOS 11.0.3

Sam Silverman-2
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I have exactly the same issues. If my hands are moist for whatever reason, then Touch ID fails - but never for verification or Apple Pay.

Go figure…..

I no longer question it. I assume that it will be corrected in a point release - or not.

The passcode (even 6 digits) is easy enough to enter.

Sam
On Oct 31, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Alan Forkosh <[hidden email]> wrote:

I haven’t noticed any change in IOS 11, but I have noticed a little strangeness from the beginning:

1) Touch ID often fails for unlocking if my finger is a bit moist (i.e. after rinsing and wiping or wiping sweat). At that point I just use the keypad.

2) Touch ID never seems to fail when used for verification (App or iTunes store confirmations, Apple Pay confirmation, etc>). Note that the Apple Pay confirmation is almost never for a store purchase since I use my Apple watch for that.

These often occur  after an unlock, so my finger and home button are not significantly drier. I’m curious if there is a lower threshold for approval once the device is unlocked.

Alan Forkosh                    Oakland, CA
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