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Sam Silverman-2
Anyone out there familiar with Filemaker?

I own a copy of Filemaker Pro Advanced Version 10. I’d like to print a directory of members. I’ve got the database built and when I print I see an option for “Booklet Printing”.

I can print in that format, but it doesn’t really create a useable booklet. Does anyone have any familiarity with the program and with this functionality?

There is of course, no manual, just online help - which hasn’t been of much help. I own a copy of the “Missing Manual” series (albeit for ver.11 - the only one I could find).

I’m not opposed to upgrading - if that will solve my problem.

I am familiar with databases having been a real wiz when dinosaurs walked the earth (dBase II, III, III+, IV) but not much since then.

Any help would be appreciated,

TIA,

Sam Silverman


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Re: Filemaker pro

Dr Digby L. James
> Anyone out there familiar with Filemaker?

I usually print to PDF and then I can print as a booklet from there if need (and thank you, you’ve just reminded me I need to print some labels!).

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Re: Filemaker pro

Doug Hogg
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I would go into layout mode and create a new report layout which is specifically for printing. I am traveling or I could try that version.

There is an email group that is helpful  for FileMaker issues:
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> On Nov 28, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Anyone out there familiar with Filemaker?
>
> I own a copy of Filemaker Pro Advanced Version 10. I’d like to print a directory of members. I’ve got the database built and when I print I see an option for “Booklet Printing”.
>
> I can print in that format, but it doesn’t really create a useable booklet. Does anyone have any familiarity with the program and with this functionality?
>
> There is of course, no manual, just online help - which hasn’t been of much help. I own a copy of the “Missing Manual” series (albeit for ver.11 - the only one I could find).
>
> I’m not opposed to upgrading - if that will solve my problem.
>
> I am familiar with databases having been a real wiz when dinosaurs walked the earth (dBase II, III, III+, IV) but not much since then.
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
>
> TIA,
>
> Sam Silverman
>
>
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Re: Filemaker pro

Curtis Wilcox
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On Nov 28, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Anyone out there familiar with Filemaker?

I own a copy of Filemaker Pro Advanced Version 10. I’d like to print a directory of members. I’ve got the database built and when I print I see an option for “Booklet Printing”.

I can print in that format, but it doesn’t really create a useable booklet. Does anyone have any familiarity with the program and with this functionality?


I never heard of “Booklet Printing” before but it's not a feature of FileMaker Pro, it's a feature of the macOS/OS X printing system. It's available in the print dialog while using most, but not all, applications (e.g. it's not in Safari). 

Digby's suggestion sounds good: make your FileMaker layout, print to PDF, then deal with Booklet Printing at that stage, which I assume has to do with page order and folding paper. It's worth thinking about offering the information in a digital format like a PDF anyway, for people who would find that more useful than a paper booklet. You could also export the data to a spreadsheet and use a mail merge feature in a word processing program, many people find them more flexible than FileMaker's layout features.


There is of course, no manual, just online help - which hasn’t been of much help. I own a copy of the “Missing Manual” series (albeit for ver.11 - the only one I could find).

I’m not opposed to upgrading - if that will solve my problem.


Since version 10 was released in 2009 and the file format changed in version 12, that might be a good idea anyway. There have been lots of improvements to the product over the years but I can't point to particular ones that would be more compelling than simply using a version for which you can receive more support, either official or ad hoc. FileMaker has always been rather severe regarding official support for their products on macOS, expecting you to be fairly current, which is frustrating when seeing how long versions of Windows have been supported.

Roaring Apps has inconsistent reports for various older versions working or not on more recent versions of macOS. I think a lot of the problems are only when using FileMaker on the network in some way, if you using it standalone it may be okay. At work, someone heeded Apple's prompt to install High Sierra then found that FileMaker Pro 13 crashed when they tried to use our networked databases.





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Re: Filemaker pro

Sam Silverman-2
Aha! 

Thanks everyone. Booklet printing is indeed part of the MacOS printing system.

I’m getting closer.

I save the FM database as a PDF, open it in Adobe and print it as a Booklet. It prints fine, with the pages in the right place  when folded. There’s just one problem…


The font is reduced from18/14 to about 8/6. I’ve now got top and bottom borders that are about 3” each and for the life of me, I can’t find a way to fix this.

Any ideas? 

Thanks in advance,

Sam

On Nov 28, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Curtis Wilcox <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Nov 28, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Anyone out there familiar with Filemaker?

I own a copy of Filemaker Pro Advanced Version 10. I’d like to print a directory of members. I’ve got the database built and when I print I see an option for “Booklet Printing”.

I can print in that format, but it doesn’t really create a useable booklet. Does anyone have any familiarity with the program and with this functionality?


I never heard of “Booklet Printing” before but it's not a feature of FileMaker Pro, it's a feature of the macOS/OS X printing system. It's available in the print dialog while using most, but not all, applications (e.g. it's not in Safari). 

Digby's suggestion sounds good: make your FileMaker layout, print to PDF, then deal with Booklet Printing at that stage, which I assume has to do with page order and folding paper. It's worth thinking about offering the information in a digital format like a PDF anyway, for people who would find that more useful than a paper booklet. You could also export the data to a spreadsheet and use a mail merge feature in a word processing program, many people find them more flexible than FileMaker's layout features.


There is of course, no manual, just online help - which hasn’t been of much help. I own a copy of the “Missing Manual” series (albeit for ver.11 - the only one I could find).

I’m not opposed to upgrading - if that will solve my problem.


Since version 10 was released in 2009 and the file format changed in version 12, that might be a good idea anyway. There have been lots of improvements to the product over the years but I can't point to particular ones that would be more compelling than simply using a version for which you can receive more support, either official or ad hoc. FileMaker has always been rather severe regarding official support for their products on macOS, expecting you to be fairly current, which is frustrating when seeing how long versions of Windows have been supported.

Roaring Apps has inconsistent reports for various older versions working or not on more recent versions of macOS. I think a lot of the problems are only when using FileMaker on the network in some way, if you using it standalone it may be okay. At work, someone heeded Apple's prompt to install High Sierra then found that FileMaker Pro 13 crashed when they tried to use our networked databases.




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Re: Filemaker pro

Curtis Wilcox
Booklet printing just takes what would have been the page size of the original 8.5x11 and scales it down to fit within 5.5x8.5 (really less because some width is reserved for the gutter), that's going to make all the text smaller. Perhaps if, while you're in FileMaker, you make a custom paper size, perhaps 5x8.5 (to account for the booklet gutter), and you make the FileMaker layout to fit, the final text size will be about what you expect. The booklet printing probably has fixed margins on all sides so you can only make them smaller by configuring the custom paper size to have no margin and to put the FileMaker fields right up to the edge.

BTW, Booklet Printing seems to be a feature of the printer driver. When I have an HP LaserJet printer selected, it's available, when I have a Samsung, it's not; both printers support two-sided printing. However, with the Samsung Driver the Layout option has a Booklet choice for Two-Sided printing, I don't know how equivalent that is.

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:14 PM, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Aha! 

Thanks everyone. Booklet printing is indeed part of the MacOS printing system.

I’m getting closer.

I save the FM database as a PDF, open it in Adobe and print it as a Booklet. It prints fine, with the pages in the right place  when folded. There’s just one problem…


The font is reduced from18/14 to about 8/6. I’ve now got top and bottom borders that are about 3” each and for the life of me, I can’t find a way to fix this.

Any ideas? 

Thanks in advance,

Sam

On Nov 28, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Curtis Wilcox <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Nov 28, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Anyone out there familiar with Filemaker?

I own a copy of Filemaker Pro Advanced Version 10. I’d like to print a directory of members. I’ve got the database built and when I print I see an option for “Booklet Printing”.

I can print in that format, but it doesn’t really create a useable booklet. Does anyone have any familiarity with the program and with this functionality?


I never heard of “Booklet Printing” before but it's not a feature of FileMaker Pro, it's a feature of the macOS/OS X printing system. It's available in the print dialog while using most, but not all, applications (e.g. it's not in Safari). 

Digby's suggestion sounds good: make your FileMaker layout, print to PDF, then deal with Booklet Printing at that stage, which I assume has to do with page order and folding paper. It's worth thinking about offering the information in a digital format like a PDF anyway, for people who would find that more useful than a paper booklet. You could also export the data to a spreadsheet and use a mail merge feature in a word processing program, many people find them more flexible than FileMaker's layout features.


There is of course, no manual, just online help - which hasn’t been of much help. I own a copy of the “Missing Manual” series (albeit for ver.11 - the only one I could find).

I’m not opposed to upgrading - if that will solve my problem.


Since version 10 was released in 2009 and the file format changed in version 12, that might be a good idea anyway. There have been lots of improvements to the product over the years but I can't point to particular ones that would be more compelling than simply using a version for which you can receive more support, either official or ad hoc. FileMaker has always been rather severe regarding official support for their products on macOS, expecting you to be fairly current, which is frustrating when seeing how long versions of Windows have been supported.

Roaring Apps has inconsistent reports for various older versions working or not on more recent versions of macOS. I think a lot of the problems are only when using FileMaker on the network in some way, if you using it standalone it may be okay. At work, someone heeded Apple's prompt to install High Sierra then found that FileMaker Pro 13 crashed when they tried to use our networked databases.




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Re: Filemaker pro

Sam Silverman-2
Curtis -

Thanks! Now it makes sense…..

No one ever foresaw the concept of a larger booklet.

Sam 

On Nov 29, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Curtis Wilcox <[hidden email]> wrote:

Booklet printing just takes what would have been the page size of the original 8.5x11 and scales it down to fit within 5.5x8.5 (really less because some width is reserved for the gutter), that's going to make all the text smaller. Perhaps if, while you're in FileMaker, you make a custom paper size, perhaps 5x8.5 (to account for the booklet gutter), and you make the FileMaker layout to fit, the final text size will be about what you expect. The booklet printing probably has fixed margins on all sides so you can only make them smaller by configuring the custom paper size to have no margin and to put the FileMaker fields right up to the edge.

BTW, Booklet Printing seems to be a feature of the printer driver. When I have an HP LaserJet printer selected, it's available, when I have a Samsung, it's not; both printers support two-sided printing. However, with the Samsung Driver the Layout option has a Booklet choice for Two-Sided printing, I don't know how equivalent that is.

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:14 PM, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Aha! 

Thanks everyone. Booklet printing is indeed part of the MacOS printing system.

I’m getting closer.

I save the FM database as a PDF, open it in Adobe and print it as a Booklet. It prints fine, with the pages in the right place  when folded. There’s just one problem…


The font is reduced from18/14 to about 8/6. I’ve now got top and bottom borders that are about 3” each and for the life of me, I can’t find a way to fix this.

Any ideas? 

Thanks in advance,

Sam

On Nov 28, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Curtis Wilcox <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Nov 28, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Anyone out there familiar with Filemaker?

I own a copy of Filemaker Pro Advanced Version 10. I’d like to print a directory of members. I’ve got the database built and when I print I see an option for “Booklet Printing”.

I can print in that format, but it doesn’t really create a useable booklet. Does anyone have any familiarity with the program and with this functionality?


I never heard of “Booklet Printing” before but it's not a feature of FileMaker Pro, it's a feature of the macOS/OS X printing system. It's available in the print dialog while using most, but not all, applications (e.g. it's not in Safari). 

Digby's suggestion sounds good: make your FileMaker layout, print to PDF, then deal with Booklet Printing at that stage, which I assume has to do with page order and folding paper. It's worth thinking about offering the information in a digital format like a PDF anyway, for people who would find that more useful than a paper booklet. You could also export the data to a spreadsheet and use a mail merge feature in a word processing program, many people find them more flexible than FileMaker's layout features.


There is of course, no manual, just online help - which hasn’t been of much help. I own a copy of the “Missing Manual” series (albeit for ver.11 - the only one I could find).

I’m not opposed to upgrading - if that will solve my problem.


Since version 10 was released in 2009 and the file format changed in version 12, that might be a good idea anyway. There have been lots of improvements to the product over the years but I can't point to particular ones that would be more compelling than simply using a version for which you can receive more support, either official or ad hoc. FileMaker has always been rather severe regarding official support for their products on macOS, expecting you to be fairly current, which is frustrating when seeing how long versions of Windows have been supported.

Roaring Apps has inconsistent reports for various older versions working or not on more recent versions of macOS. I think a lot of the problems are only when using FileMaker on the network in some way, if you using it standalone it may be okay. At work, someone heeded Apple's prompt to install High Sierra then found that FileMaker Pro 13 crashed when they tried to use our networked databases.




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Re: Filemaker pro

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On 29 Nov 2017, at 05:12, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:
> No one ever foresaw the concept of a larger booklet.

Sure they did. If you had a 11x17 paper in your printer, for example, your booklets would scale to that size.

“Booklet” means “Print this so that I can fold the paper into a booklet” and so how it prints is entirely dependent on the size of the paper you’re printing to.

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Re: Filemaker pro

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Well, I have 8.5 x 11 paper in my printer and it does NOT scale to that size. Am I doing anything wrong?

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> Sure they did. If you had a 11x17 paper in your printer, for example, your booklets would scale to that size.
>
> “Booklet” means “Print this so that I can fold the paper into a booklet” and so how it prints is entirely dependent on the size of the paper you’re printing to.
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Re: Filemaker pro

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On Nov 29, 2017, at 15:18, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Well, I have 8.5 x 11 paper in my printer and it does NOT scale to that size. Am I doing anything wrong?

I scales to the size to be folded into 4ths to produce a booklet. Or at least it did with my printer the last time I printed to a booklet.

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Re: Filemaker pro

Sam Silverman-2
Setting it up to fold into fourths work - but it’s too tiny for my old eyes.

Thanks to everyone for their help.

Sam Silverman

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> On Nov 29, 2017, at 15:18, Sam Silverman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Well, I have 8.5 x 11 paper in my printer and it does NOT scale to that size. Am I doing anything wrong?
>
> I scales to the size to be folded into 4ths to produce a booklet. Or at least it did with my printer the last time I printed to a booklet.
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