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Ira Gold
Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?

Any general comments?

Also, anyone found a replacement for Theme Font & Size Changer?  For us older folks it really helps.  The TF&SC
folks have already said they will need to do lots of work to get a version for the new Firefox architecture.  It really
helps to be able to make the Firefox sidebar and other labels larger.

Thanks in advance.

Ira.




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Re: FIrefox 57

Brian L. Matthews
On 11/14/17 2:26 PM, Ira Gold wrote:
> Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?
>
> Any general comments?

I rely on too many legacy extensions (and in some cases, the data they
store) to upgrade. I'm sticking with 56 for now and have started trying
out other browsers.

Brian


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Re: FIrefox 57

james.connolly
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Just switched. SO much faster. Cleaner, more modern. Handles video content with aplomb. 

All best,
James

Sent from my iPhone


Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 2:26 PM -0800 from [hidden email] <[hidden email]>:
Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?

Any general comments?

Also, anyone found a replacement for Theme Font & Size Changer? For us older folks it really helps. The TF&SC
folks have already said they will need to do lots of work to get a version for the new Firefox architecture. It really
helps to be able to make the Firefox sidebar and other labels larger.

Thanks in advance.

Ira.




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Re: FIrefox 57

John Turner-3
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 Aside for the Font Changer Extension not working anymore the new version is excellent! Frankly it is faster and more versatile than the new Safari in High Sierra 13.1…I hate to say. 57 is now my default browser. 


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Subject:  FIrefox 57

Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?

Any general comments?

Also, anyone found a replacement for Theme Font & Size Changer? For us older folks it really helps. The TF&SC
folks have already said they will need to do lots of work to get a version for the new Firefox architecture. It really
helps to be able to make the Firefox sidebar and other labels larger.

Thanks in advance.

Ira.




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Re: FIrefox 57

Jim Carr
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Brian L. Matthews wrote, On 11/14/17, 3:01 PM:

> On 11/14/17 2:26 PM, Ira Gold wrote:
>> Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?
>>
>> Any general comments?
>
> I rely on too many legacy extensions (and in some cases, the data they
> store) to upgrade. I'm sticking with 56 for now and have started
> trying out other browsers.
>
> Brian
>
Brian:

Firefox pushes updates. Not sure how to stop it from updating to 57 one
day soon.

If you can't find a replacement for an extension one needs, try Firefox
52 ESR here <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/>.
Version 52.4.1 is current and supports legacy extensions.

I am adapting to 57 while also running ESR. You need to create a second
profile to run both at same time.

Using Zoom Page WE with Firefox 57
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-page-we/> to
increase type and image size on pages.

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Re: FIrefox 57

Al Varnell

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Jim Carr wrote:

>
> Brian L. Matthews wrote, On 11/14/17, 3:01 PM:
>> On 11/14/17 2:26 PM, Ira Gold wrote:
>>> Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?
>>>
>>> Any general comments?
>>
>> I rely on too many legacy extensions (and in some cases, the data they store) to upgrade. I'm sticking with 56 for now and have started trying out other browsers.
>>
>> Brian
>>
> Brian:
>
> Firefox pushes updates. Not sure how to stop it from updating to 57 one day soon.

I've never observed that. I have always had to initiate an update manually. Are you thinking of Google Chrome?

> If you can't find a replacement for an extension one needs, try Firefox 52 ESR here <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/>. Version 52.4.1 is current and supports legacy extensions.
>
> I am adapting to 57 while also running ESR. You need to create a second profile to run both at same time.
>
> Using Zoom Page WE with Firefox 57 <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-page-we/> to increase type and image size on pages.

A few legacy extensions are finally being updated over the last day or two since 57 came out. Seems many developers drug their feet as they have had several months to adapt to the new guidelines. Most of the ones I have received updates during that time, but were still marked as legacy.

Might want to poke at the extension developer to let them know how important it is that they post a compliant version ASAP.

-Al-

> --Jim



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Re: FIrefox 57

Brian L. Matthews
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On 11/15/17 10:57 PM, Jim Carr wrote:

> Brian L. Matthews wrote, On 11/14/17, 3:01 PM:
>> On 11/14/17 2:26 PM, Ira Gold wrote:
>>> Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?
>>>
>>> Any general comments?
>>
>> I rely on too many legacy extensions (and in some cases, the data
>> they store) to upgrade. I'm sticking with 56 for now and have started
>> trying out other browsers.
>>
>> Brian
>>
> Brian:
>
> Firefox pushes updates. Not sure how to stop it from updating to 57
> one day soon.
I've got auto-update turned off so hopefully Mozilla won't override
that, but if they do I can revert, block connections, lock the
application, etc.
> If you can't find a replacement for an extension one needs, try
> Firefox 52 ESR here
> <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/>. Version
> 52.4.1 is current and supports legacy extensions.
Yes, I'm aware of the ESR version. There's also Waterfox.

Brian


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Re: FIrefox 57

David Ross
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It is an option on both. Chrome makes you use the command line to
disable auto updates.

On 11/16/17 2:26 AM, Al Varnell wrote:
>> Firefox pushes updates. Not sure how to stop it from updating to 57 one day soon.
> I've never observed that. I have always had to initiate an update manually. Are you thinking of Google Chrome?
>



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Re: FIrefox 57

Ira Gold
In reply to this post by Al Varnell
It looks like Zoom Page WE only changes the web pages and not things like the font size for Firefox
sidebar and text in tab labels and menu labels.

Ira.

> On Nov 16, 2017, at 2:26 AM, Al Varnell <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Jim Carr wrote:
>>
>> Brian L. Matthews wrote, On 11/14/17, 3:01 PM:
>>> On 11/14/17 2:26 PM, Ira Gold wrote:
>>>> Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?
>>>>
>>>> Any general comments?
>>>
>>> I rely on too many legacy extensions (and in some cases, the data they store) to upgrade. I'm sticking with 56 for now and have started trying out other browsers.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>> Brian:
>>
>> Firefox pushes updates. Not sure how to stop it from updating to 57 one day soon.
>
> I've never observed that. I have always had to initiate an update manually. Are you thinking of Google Chrome?
>
>> If you can't find a replacement for an extension one needs, try Firefox 52 ESR here <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/>. Version 52.4.1 is current and supports legacy extensions.
>>
>> I am adapting to 57 while also running ESR. You need to create a second profile to run both at same time.
>>
>> Using Zoom Page WE with Firefox 57 <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-page-we/> to increase type and image size on pages.
>
> A few legacy extensions are finally being updated over the last day or two since 57 came out. Seems many developers drug their feet as they have had several months to adapt to the new guidelines. Most of the ones I have received updates during that time, but were still marked as legacy.
>
> Might want to poke at the extension developer to let them know how important it is that they post a compliant version ASAP.
>
> -Al-
>
>> --Jim
>
>
>
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Re: FIrefox 57

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On 15 Nov 2017, at 23:57, Jim Carr <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Brian L. Matthews wrote, On 11/14/17, 3:01 PM:
>> On 11/14/17 2:26 PM, Ira Gold wrote:
>>> Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?
>>>
>>> Any general comments?
>>
>> I rely on too many legacy extensions (and in some cases, the data they store) to upgrade. I'm sticking with 56 for now and have started trying out other browsers.
>
> Firefox pushes updates. Not sure how to stop it from updating to 57 one day soon.

I don't think turning off updates for Firefox (or Chrome) is possible anymore. And this is a good thing. Running the LTS version (er… I guess they call it ESR) is a temporary solution until the long-term support version is updated to the Firefox 57 engine.

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Re: FIrefox 57

Al Varnell
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 01:46 AM, @lbutlr wrote:
On 15 Nov 2017, at 23:57, Jim Carr wrote:
Brian L. Matthews wrote, On 11/14/17, 3:01 PM:
On 11/14/17 2:26 PM, Ira Gold wrote:
Anyone upgrade to Firefox 57?

Any general comments?

I rely on too many legacy extensions (and in some cases, the data they store) to upgrade. I'm sticking with 56 for now and have started trying out other browsers.

Firefox pushes updates. Not sure how to stop it from updating to 57 one day soon.

I don't think turning off updates for Firefox...is possible anymore.

I don't really understand why you feel the need to offer off-handed advice on what you "think" is or isn't possible. It's quite easy to check this one out first and others in this discussion have already stated that it's possible.

Firefox Preferences and scroll down to "Firefox Updates"

Allow Firefox to
- Automatically install updates (recommended)
- Check for updates but let you choose to install them
- Never check for updates (not recommended)

I have always used the second option, but it's been so long I don't even remember having changed it.

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Re: FIrefox 57

David Ross
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Not in all cases. Many businesses have a need to control when such
things happen.

On 11/17/17 4:46 AM, @lbutlr wrote:
> I don't think turning off updates for Firefox (or Chrome) is possible anymore. And this is a good thing.



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