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Another iOS 11 loss

Norm Beazer
iOS 11 has now removed the switch to toggle between Portrait and Landscape view.

Some books have portions of text that are indented, so Landscape mode is needed to be able to read such portions of text easily.

I suppose those of us who use the iPod Touch to read books are very much a minority user group, so we can be safely ignored by Apple.  Besides, with iBooks the toggle was safely hidden and took many of us quite a while to even find it. 

Fortunately my iPhone 5c cannot be upgraded further, so I have a fall back option – for now.  When either the iPhone or the iPod Touch dies, I won’t be replacing them with an Apple device however – I have had enough of Apple’s largess.  




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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Carl H. Pohle
The switch is now in the dock. 

Best regards
C. H. Pohle

Am 27.01.2018 um 23:58 schrieb Norm Beazer <[hidden email]>:

iOS 11 has now removed the switch to toggle between Portrait and Landscape view.

Some books have portions of text that are indented, so Landscape mode is needed to be able to read such portions of text easily.

I suppose those of us who use the iPod Touch to read books are very much a minority user group, so we can be safely ignored by Apple.  Besides, with iBooks the toggle was safely hidden and took many of us quite a while to even find it. 

Fortunately my iPhone 5c cannot be upgraded further, so I have a fall back option – for now.  When either the iPhone or the iPod Touch dies, I won’t be replacing them with an Apple device however – I have had enough of Apple’s largess.  



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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Rodney
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On Jan 27, 2018, at 23:58, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:

iOS 11 has now removed the switch to toggle between Portrait and Landscape view.

I just swipe up to get the Control Center, disable portrait orientation lock, and then tilt my phone 90 degrees. I think that there is an additional option in the Kindle app, but I haven’t used the app in a while…

When either the iPhone or the iPod Touch dies, I won’t be replacing them with an Apple device however – ...

I guess this means we’ll see less of you…😞



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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Carl H. Pohle
Sorry, wrong wording, 
please excuse my bad translation from German. 

The switch is now in the 
-> Control Center. 

Best regards
C. H. Pohle

Am 28.01.2018 um 00:29 schrieb Rodney <[hidden email]>:


On Jan 27, 2018, at 23:58, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:

iOS 11 has now removed the switch to toggle between Portrait and Landscape view.

I just swipe up to get the Control Center, disable portrait orientation lock, and then tilt my phone 90 degrees. I think that there is an additional option in the Kindle app, but I haven’t used the app in a while…

When either the iPhone or the iPod Touch dies, I won’t be replacing them with an Apple device however – ...

I guess this means we’ll see less of you…😞


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Norm Beazer
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Sorry guys  . . .  in iOS 11.2.2  the toggle is GONE  . . .  gone, gone

It ain’t there no more.

Will it come back again ? who knows ?

On Jan 27, 2018, at 23:58, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:

iOS 11 has now removed the switch to toggle between Portrait and Landscape view.

I just swipe up to get the Control Center, disable portrait orientation lock, and then tilt my phone 90 degrees. I think that there is an additional option in the Kindle app, but I haven’t used the app in a while…

When either the iPhone or the iPod Touch dies, I won’t be replacing them with an Apple device however – ...

I guess this means we’ll see less of you…😞


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Alexander Forbes
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On Jan 27, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:

iOS 11 has now removed the switch to toggle between Portrait and Landscape view.

I recently had an eye surgical procedure which soon left me with the most beautiful black eye I ever saw. I wanted to take a selfie, which I rarely do, and could not find the familiar icon for flipping lens sides. I finally reversed the iPhone 7+ (iOS 11.current) physically and pressed the shutter button by reaching behind.

Google showed a method that worked. “Hey Siri, turn on Selfie.” To turn it back to normal camera, instructions were provided for swiping and pressing. Another top suggested "Swipe over to the Portrait setting.”

Go figure. I suppose a flip button (like I think we used to have) would be too simple for Apple programmers, none of whom probably ever owned or used a high end reel camera with knobs and buttons that always stayed right where the factory put them. 







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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

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> On Jan 27, 2018, at 3:45 PM, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Sorry guys  . . .  in iOS 11.2.2  the toggle is GONE  . . .  gone, gone


> On Jan 27, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Alexander Forbes <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I wanted to take a selfie, which I rarely do, and could not find the familiar icon for flipping lens sides.

I'm not sure what either of you are talking about. I'm running 11.2.2 and I see both options. The screen rotation lock is in the Control Center, where it's been for ages.

(If you're talking about a specific landscape button in iBooks, that could have been removed. It's been years since I've used iBooks much. But it was always a duplicate feature that the OS already provided, so it wouldn't surprise me much for Apple to remove it.)

As for the camera switch, it's right there on the lower right when you're in camera mode.


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Norm Beazer
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I'm not sure what either of you are talking about. I'm running 11.2.2 and I see both options. The screen rotation lock is in the Control Center, where it's been for ages.
Marc

What device are you using ?





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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

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> On Jan 27, 2018, at 5:20 PM, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> What device are you using ?

iPhone X. Why should that make a difference?


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Woodard Paul
I have an iPhone 6 with  11.2.2 and I have both options too.

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> iPhone X. Why should that make a difference?
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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Norm Beazer
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Why should the device make a difference ?

I have no idea – just clutching at straws.

If my iPod Touch does indeed have the switch, it is well and truly very well hidden.


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Alan Forkosh
I’ve just posted two screenshots of my iPhone Control Panel screen ) at https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0OGdPblXGcaH6a

The first is with the orientation control in locked position; the second with it unlocked. The appropriate icon is on the left side of the 2nd row. Note that the lock icon is always available; many of the other widets were placed there via the the Control Center screen in Settings.

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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Marc Zeedar-2
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> On Jan 27, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> If my iPod Touch does indeed have the switch, it is well and truly very well hidden.

I just looked on my iPod Touch and it’s there.


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Norm Beazer
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Yeah – you are both right !

I am mortified

How could I not see it ?

Sorry [ eats humble pie ] !


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

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> On Jan 27, 2018, at 5:57 PM, Norm Beazer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> How could I not see it ?

Don't worry -- we've all been there. It's remarkably easy to do when stuff gets moved around from where you're accustomed to seeing it.

(I still have muscle memory that provokes me to choose the wrong menu item in certain programs I've used for decades after the maker moved things a bit.)


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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Norm Beazer
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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Richard Rettke-2
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On 27 Jan 2018, at 18:25, Zeedar Marc [hidden email] wrote:

As for the camera switch, it's right there on the lower right when you're in camera mode.

And it's only there when in Video, Photo or Square mode. So if you have for example Pano selected, there will not be button to toggle which camera to use.

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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Karen Spitzer
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Yes, there is a lock/unlock icon in the Kindle app to switch to/from portrait/landscape view. I just checked on my iPod Touch 6.
I always wondered what was for. Thanks Rodney !

> On Jan 27, 2018, at 4:29 PM, Rodney <[hidden email]> wrote:
> additional option in the Kindle app, but I haven’t used the app in a while…



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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

Alexander Forbes
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On Jan 27, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Zeedar Marc <[hidden email]> wrote:

Don't worry -- we've all been there. It's remarkably easy to do when stuff gets moved around from where you're accustomed to seeing it.

(I still have muscle memory that provokes me to choose the wrong menu item in certain programs I've used for decades after the maker moved things a bit.)

My point of yesterday exactly, but you expressed it better. What if Genera; Motors decided to swap positions of the gas pedal and brake, so the Engineering Team could take advantage of a new carburetor push rod and the Design Team could enhance the visual appearance of the floorboard? Cutomers would love such bold innovation,  a win-win for everyone!

Like many others I have vision issues. Apple's constant fiddling with “bold new fresh appearance" is sometimes just a showstopper for me. Re-learning trusted old tools with every minor OS or iOS update suggests the possibility it may be time for a brand change.

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Re: Another iOS 11 loss

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Alexander Forbes <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> My point of yesterday exactly, but you expressed it better. What if Genera; Motors decided to swap positions of the gas pedal and brake, so the Engineering Team could take advantage of a new carburetor push rod and the Design Team could enhance the visual appearance of the floorboard? Cutomers would love such bold innovation,  a win-win for everyone!
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> Like many others I have vision issues. Apple's constant fiddling with “bold new fresh appearance" is sometimes just a showstopper for me. Re-learning trusted old tools with every minor OS or iOS update suggests the possibility it may be time for a brand change.

I really hate the yearly updates. I feel like I have barely grasped the new stuff and it all changes again.

I don’t think other brands are immune to this.

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